Beast, Charismatic World Leader - Please

[jamie]

If you can guess who he is then you've got the wrong man.

[Trinity]

Well if your talking about the anti-christ haha i don't even bother looking for him. but i do look for my LORD and savior Jesus Christ hehe.

[Snowdoove]

Hi!

It is so amazing to me how one topic, can have so many sub-titles.

When I wrote this topic, I was just wondering about who the anti-christ might be.

Write names down today and when the anti-christ does surface, you have something to look back on.

If you have your head in the Bible 24/7, when do you have the time to do as Jesus requested of us:

Feed the poor, give water, give clothing, help the widows in your neighbourhood, visit hospitals and prisons. :hug:

There are limits to everything. :t:

Snowdoove

[dgolvach]

I keep telling you guys that its Simon on American Idle. Hes the dude!

Dan...

[Guest shadow2b]

-That briefly, is my take on the falling away as I see it now, but I as always, I stand to be corrected.

eric.

It is also my own opinion that the church has already entered into the first stages of apostacy, with all the false teaching that is coming across some pulpits.

but I could be wrong there too.

eric

-NOPE NO need for "Correction" you are quite right me ole first mate---When *some*churches started -Ordaining"homosexuals & lesbians as pastors--priests--Leaders of "The-Church"??that is way PAST the *beginning* of the great-falling--Away...-This "Nation"& the "Church"are in for some very *TRYING* Times-- -- VERY-SOON

-REV.6.vss.1.Thru.13-------

-And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the

-noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and

-behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given

-unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had

-opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there

-went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat

-thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and

-there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal,

-I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse;

-and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in

-the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three

-measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And

-when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,

-Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on

-him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over

-the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death,

-and with the beasts of the earth. And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw

-under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the

-testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O

-Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell

-on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was

-said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their

-fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should

-be fulfilled. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a

-great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon

-became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree

-casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

-Prices on Homes--cars-groceries are SKY-Rocketing---& that "NAFTA" agreement of "FREE-TRADE" is bringing mighty-mighty UNwholsome meats --like pork--beef--

-that are so INferior to American grown pork & beef it's a shame--yet the feds DO-NO-Thing-to protect U.S. interests-----our borders are over-run with VIOLENT illegal immigrants--from aLL over south-america--mexico-brazil-columbia--

The American workers are deliberately being forced out of work by Giant multi-billion dallar corporations closing up & moving out of the country to third world nations where the workers are paid 50cents-$1.00dollar an hour which is still MORE than they would be paid IF there had been any jobs for them to begin eith--

-Then-these treacherous corporations send their products back to the U.S. & think we still oughtta buy their shoddy-constructed goods for even more $$$ than they were selling for in the U.S. before they abandoned the American workers--

-For instance "Maytag"closed down & moved out of the U.S. putting 2,500 workers out of work..I WILL NOT buy ANYTHING with "Maytag"on it---

ahhhhhh-well, I've griped about this before so I'LL just SHUT-UP & get OFF my soap-box-------fer now---- :oww: :oww: :x: :x:

[Guest shadow2b]

-This is why I believe the Church will be gone before the Antichrist appears. If the church witnesses the appearance and rise of the Antichrist, then this removes all imminency of Christ's return... which is a consistent theme of Scripture.

Plus, we see the Church in Heaven in Rev. 5:9-10... this is before any of the judgments are meted out.

Blessings...

-REV.5.vs.9

-And they sung a new song, saying,

Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open

-the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood

-out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 

--This in verse 9 is a "New-Song"they sing about a "Future" event That JESUS has

-Provided for by HIS death--Buriel-& Resurrection----

--The only thing wrong with that assessment of verse 9-- is "There is a Difference between the {Wrath-of-GOD} & the "Wrath of the devil" which is poured out against the "Church"----

-REV.6:vss.8.Thru.11----------

-And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death,

-and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part

-of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the

-beasts of the earth. And when he had opened the fifth seal  I saw under the altar

-the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which

-they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and

-true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 

-And white robes were given unto every one of them;  and it was said unto them,

-that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and

-their brethren, that should be killed as they [were], should be fulfilled.

-IF the "Church"is gone from the earth----WHO are all the dead that WILL-BE Killed for their Testimony??-NO Judgement of GOD has fallen on those who are killing GOD'S Saints even AFTER the FIFTH-SEAL has been opened-----

-REV.7:vss.13.Thru.16------

-And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are

-arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou

-knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation,

-and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

-Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his

-temple:and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall

-hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor

-any heat. 

-How can a saint "Come-out of Great Tribulation" & not GO-THRU-that Great

-Tribulation??-Why would these Saints have to Wash their New White Robes in the

-"BLOOD" of the LAMB IF they had been "Raptured" & were already in Heaven???

-WHY should these in "New-White-Robes" hunger-or Thirst-or suffer any heat

-IF they have been in heaven before any of GODS Judgements??

-REV.13:vss.2.Thru.8--------

-And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet]

-of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his

-power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were

-wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered

-after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the

-beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who

-is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking

-great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty

-[and] two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to

-blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it

-was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and

-power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that

-dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book

-of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

-Sooooo, IF the "Church"is GONE Before ANY of the devils wrath is poured out on the "Church" Who is HE KILLING??--WHO Are These "Saints??-Where did these "Saints"come from??-SO IF only those whose {Names are written in the "Book-Of-Life"}When did those "Raptured" saints get their names written in the "Lambs-Book-Of-Life"?? Why would those "Raptured"saints have their names written in the "Lambs-Book-Of-Life" IF they have NOT washed their Robes in the BLOOD of the Lamb & They never "Came-out-of-Great-Tribulation"??

-Inquiring Minds want to Know------Or do They??- :suspect:

[Guest shadow2b]

-God is kinder than we are, and the idea of us pouring out that kind of wrath on our own children is ridiculous. How much more so for God?

-Where do YOU get that A saint--The Bride of CHrist--The Church would have ANY Wrath to pour out on anyone??-----Will not compute--will not compute

-Raymond--Raymond--come in--compute--Raymond---- will not compute

DO NOT mix up the Church (i.e. The Bride of Christ), with the tribulation saints.

-The Church & the Saints are one & the Same-----where do you separate the two-in-One??--How do you "Separate" the saints--the Church-&--the Bride??

-Raymond--Raymond--does not compute-commmmmmppppppttttteee-squarkkkk-

boing--boin-=-boi-0-bbbbb--squarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr---kkk---

[Guest Strservant]

Hi!

It is so amazing to me how one topic, can have so many sub-titles.

When I wrote this topic, I was just wondering about who the anti-christ might be.

Write names down today and when the anti-christ does surface, you have something to look back on.

If you have your head in the Bible 24/7, when do you have the time to do as Jesus requested of us:

Feed the poor, give water, give clothing, help the widows in your neighbourhood, visit hospitals and prisons. :hug:

There are limits to everything. :t:

Snowdoove

[snowdoove,

To answer your question I think Bill Clinton is very charismatic. He also seems to be able to blatantly break the law and no one cares. Seems to me to be someone like that.

GUYS, we need to stop hijacking this thread. I realize you all have started another discussion but please start a separate thread. Snowdoove started this thread seeking some answers and no one is answering the original question.

Respectfully,

Strservant

[Guest koppen]

removed by me

[papasangel]

Hmm boldey speaking out against Christ. I got it its (drum roll please) John Kerry. Ta da ok now where is my prize lol.