Questions for people who say Christians can't accept evolution

[Fez]

Because it could happen before we die. It could happen this year. The fact that we are going to heaven does not mean that we should not care about the return of Jesus.

I see where your coming from. I do. From my view if i was going to see him when i died i wouldn't be thinking about it while i was alive. That way it would be a cool surprise if he did pop around for an ould salvation.

I will leave this one to you shiloh, if you think it is worth it!

I think you may be taking me up wrong. I am not meaning to cause offence. So fez what do you want to say.

That your salvation (your saving), is in His hands. All you can do (as I did), is ask Him for it. Thats where the exercise of your free will comes in. (it may take some time..... no one knows His timing)

Blessings

[ollkiller]

That your salvation (your saving), is in His hands. All you can do (as I did), is ask Him for it. Thats where the exercise of your free will comes in. (it may take some time..... no one knows His timing)

Blessings

Too true. Been there and asked the question. No answer. Don't know what the future holds. Anyhow gotta go. Post back later.

[Guest shiloh357]

Because it could happen before we die. It could happen this year. The fact that we are going to heaven does not mean that we should not care about the return of Jesus.

I see where your coming from. I do. From my view if i was going to see him when i died i wouldn't be thinking about it while i was alive. That way it would be a cool surprise if he did pop around for an ould salvation.

If you were a Christian, you would long for His return as all Christians do. In fact, if you were a Christian, your perspective would change do to the inward transformation that takes place. You would see life from an eternal perspective rather than simply limiting your scope to the here and now.

The only people who will be surprised will be those who reject Christ and it will not a pleasant surprise, either. All the more why everyone needs Christ now, while there is still time.

[CSLewis]

Because it could happen before we die. It could happen this year. The fact that we are going to heaven does not mean that we should not care about the return of Jesus.

I see where your coming from. I do. From my view if i was going to see him when i died i wouldn't be thinking about it while i was alive. That way it would be a cool surprise if he did pop around for an ould salvation.

If you were a Christian, you would long for His return as all Christians do. In fact, if you were a Christian, your perspective would change do to the inward transformation that takes place. You would see life from an eternal perspective rather than simply limiting your scope to the here and now.

The only people who will be surprised will be those who reject Christ and it will not a pleasant surprise, either. All the more why everyone needs Christ now, while there is still time.

Again this is your personal interpretation of eschatology - and again you are making your interpretation god- and therefore you decide who is Christian or not based upon if there interpretation is the same as yours- and again you are taking things out of the historical context and applying them to modern life.

[Guest shiloh357]

Because it could happen before we die. It could happen this year. The fact that we are going to heaven does not mean that we should not care about the return of Jesus.

I see where your coming from. I do. From my view if i was going to see him when i died i wouldn't be thinking about it while i was alive. That way it would be a cool surprise if he did pop around for an ould salvation.

If you were a Christian, you would long for His return as all Christians do. In fact, if you were a Christian, your perspective would change do to the inward transformation that takes place. You would see life from an eternal perspective rather than simply limiting your scope to the here and now.

The only people who will be surprised will be those who reject Christ and it will not a pleasant surprise, either. All the more why everyone needs Christ now, while there is still time.

Again this is your personal interpretation of eschatology - and again you are making your interpretation god- and therefore you decide who is Christian or not based upon if there interpretation is the same as yours- and again you are taking things out of the historical context and applying them to modern life.

No it is not my "personal" interpretation. Interpretation isn't, by nature, personal nor subjective. Jesus IS coming back to earth. That is Bible 101. The Bible teaches the bodily return of Jesus to the earth. To reject that is to call God a liar.

[Fez]

No it is not my "personal" interpretation. Interpretation isn't, by nature, personal nor subjective. Jesus IS coming back to earth. That is Bible 101. The Bible teaches the bodily return of Jesus to the earth. To reject that is to call God a liar.

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Those who believe (and want) Jesus to return will be ecstatic about the end times (and in turn do what they can to hasten it). Its not magic, its not a prophecy come true, its not a miracle, its not Judgment Day...its self-fulfilling. Those who (strongly) believe the world will end (soon) and that they'll be whisked away to heaven support nuclear wars, genocide, apartheid, poverty, AIDS, "ethnic" cleansing, religious cleansing, etc because they all contribute to the end times and the second coming of Jesus. Its disgusting.

Christopher I have heard some way out stuff from you before, but this takes the cake! Your brackets (strongly) and (soon) were clever I admit, but do nothing to divert the true intent of the statement. I for one, and I speak for every member of my (considerably sized) church, expect Jesus to return, and rejoice in the fact, BUT the very litany of worldly woes you roll out (which would not exist if everyone followed Christ in the first place!), are exactly what every one of us abhor, and many of us are active in fighting against

And just for some scriptural clarification, there is nothing anyone, believer or not, can do to hasten the coming of Jesus. He will come when He comes, the bible is very specific on that. Its wonderful!

Blessings

[CSLewis]

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Those who believe (and want) Jesus to return will be ecstatic about the end times (and in turn do what they can to hasten it). Its not magic, its not a prophecy come true, its not a miracle, its not Judgement Day...its self-fulfilling. Those who (strongly) believe the world will end (soon) and that they'll be whisked away to heaven support nuclear wars, genocide, apartheid, poverty, AIDS, "ethnic" cleansing, religious cleansing, etc because they all contribute to the end times and the second coming of Jesus. Its disgusting.

Do you understand what an ignorant post looks like? If not reread your last blather. Do you ever say anything intelligent?

To Chris: huh???

Jesus return can be seen as not a literal return - there is much historical evidence to support that much of revelation was written to the people of that time period-

question- are you Jehovah's witness?

Your personal interpretation is the furthest away

from the authors intent based on historical context and higher criticism.

[Fez]

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Those who believe (and want) Jesus to return will be ecstatic about the end times (and in turn do what they can to hasten it). Its not magic, its not a prophecy come true, its not a miracle, its not Judgement Day...its self-fulfilling. Those who (strongly) believe the world will end (soon) and that they'll be whisked away to heaven support nuclear wars, genocide, apartheid, poverty, AIDS, "ethnic" cleansing, religious cleansing, etc because they all contribute to the end times and the second coming of Jesus. Its disgusting.

Do you understand what an ignorant post looks like? If not reread your last blather. Do you ever say anything intelligent?

Do you ever stop insulting people because your large ego needs to feed itself so often that putting others down is the only way to do it? Don't bother answering, its a rhetorical question.

The fact of the matter is, religious fundamentalism will destroy our world and the ones who believe this will happen soon support it. Why wouldn't they? The sooner Jesus comes, the sooner you'll all be basking in heavenly glory. You have absolutely no reason to help. There are Christians who support nuclear war (to "save" Israel). There are those who believe the "war on terror" is a Holy War. When two ideologies go head to head, especially in this day and age, we're all screwed.

Methinks the evolutionist protesteth too much

[CSLewis]

Wow Chris you are very wrong - religious fundentalism of one form or another is what this nation is founded on- this supposed holy war you talk of is defending innocents against Muslim extremists who even kill there own people and deny basic human rights to women and children- this deeply rooted mysogyny is one thing Christianity seeks to eradicate and if the

only way to protect humanity is to destroy these evil doers then in my opinion it is the only choice.

[MorningGlory]

No it is not my "personal" interpretation. Interpretation isn't, by nature, personal nor subjective. Jesus IS coming back to earth. That is Bible 101. The Bible teaches the bodily return of Jesus to the earth. To reject that is to call God a liar.

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Those who believe (and want) Jesus to return will be ecstatic about the end times (and in turn do what they can to hasten it). Its not magic, its not a prophecy come true, its not a miracle, its not Judgement Day...its self-fulfilling. Those who (strongly) believe the world will end (soon) and that they'll be whisked away to heaven support nuclear wars, genocide, apartheid, poverty, AIDS, "ethnic" cleansing, religious cleansing, etc because they all contribute to the end times and the second coming of Jesus. Its disgusting.

I have to say, C.C., that you are a world class, gold plated, unabashed liar.