Franky67 Posted November 12, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/12/1925 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Therefore, in light of all this truth and all of these passages, it cannot be denied that when Paul wrote, "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jcsus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (I Tim. 6:3), Paul meant Christ's words through himself. To teach that when Paul said, 'The words of our Lord Jesus Christ", he meant His words while here on earth, is to take people back under the Law; for Christ lived in the age of the Law (Gal. 4:4.5). He kept the Law (Matt. 5:17), He was circumcised the 8th day according to the Law, He went to the temple to worship according to the Law. So to go back to the words which Christ spoke on earth for our instruction for this age, is to go back under the Law. Lehighton Bible Church, Jamestown, PA Does this teaching strike anybody else as wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 12, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2009 That sure is twisting the scriptures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky67 Posted November 12, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/12/1925 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 That sure is twisting the scriptures. That's what I thought, but Paul says to follow him in three different places. 1 Cor 4:16,17 11:2 and Phil.3:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 12, 2009 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2009 That's what happens when you start throwing scriptures together that really don't belong, you can make the Bible say anything you want. We do the same with news stories now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky67 Posted November 12, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/12/1925 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 That's what happens when you start throwing scriptures together that really don't belong, you can make the Bible say anything you want. We do the same with news stories now and then. Wonder if this is a denominational thing ? Then also there's the scripture that says not to follow men, 1 Cor. 1 12,13 "I am of Paul, I am of Apollos,.....etc" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2009 That sure is twisting the scriptures. That's what I thought, but Paul says to follow him in three different places. 1 Cor 4:16,17 11:2 and Phil.3:17 Yes, he did. I take this to mean that Paul is following Jesus completely, being an Apostle, that he is setting an example for all to follow. At that time, there were many false apostles and teachers around confusing the people. At no time have I read it as Paul telling them to place his words above Christs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2009 Wonder if this is a denominational thing ? Then also there's the scripture that says not to follow men, 1 Cor. 1 12,13 "I am of Paul, I am of Apollos,.....etc" In Christian denominations, I see that they agree on the basic concepts of salvation and God. What they disagree with are not salvation issues, even though some denominations will claim they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted November 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Paul's words, just as all words in the New Testament and Old ARE the words of Christ. It is all Christ there is NO division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted November 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2009 That sure is twisting the scriptures. That's what I thought, but Paul says to follow him in three different places. 1 Cor 4:16,17 11:2 and Phil.3:17 As he followed Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted November 13, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2009 Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ. If one follows the teachings of Paul they will follow Christ as that was who he himself was following and it was the heart of Paul to make disciples for Christ. There are those who say, we are not to follow the teachings of Paul thus rejecting a large portion of scripture but this is not true as 2 Timothy 3:16-- says, that ALL scripture is profitable... If we obey the teachings of Paul we are following Christ. oc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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