The place of the prophet in the new testament.

[Guest Called]

With the completion of the Canon and unification of Jews and Gentiles in One Body many of the gifts ended. This is the testimony of the Scriptures and of history.

Where is this at?

[Botz]

To say that G-d does not move in the prophetic today through the Holy Spirit is tantamount to saying the Holy Spirit chooses not to inspire godly individuals to speak to the Church concerning the heart of G-d for His people.

It is also unreasonable to assume that prophecy is in any way connected to adding to the completeness of Scripture...no one would say this...the Scriptures are complete...but G-d does speak to people through the Holy Ghost in dreams and visions and through inspirational words of exhortation,edification and comfort.

Yes there will be false prophesies and men who seek their own edification rather than that of the Church...but this in no way negates the prophetic ministry of the Holy Spirit...it is not man that produces prophecy but G-d who wills it.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

Rom 12:4 For even as we have many members in one body, and all the members don't have the same function,

Rom 12:5 so we, who are many, are one body in Messiah, and individually members one of another.

Rom 12:6 Having gifts differing according to the grace that was given to us, if prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of our faith;

Rom 12:7 or service, let us give ourselves to service; or he who teaches, to his teaching;

Rom 12:8 or he who exhorts, to his exhorting: he who gives, let him do it with liberality; he who rules, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

[Guest Called]

To say that G-d does not move in the prophetic today through the Holy Spirit is tantamount to saying the Holy Spirit chooses not to inspire godly individuals to speak to the Church concerning the heart of G-d for His people.

It is also unreasonable to assume that prophecy is in any way connected to adding to the completeness of Scripture...no one would say this...the Scriptures are complete...but G-d does speak to people through the Holy Ghost in dreams and visions and through inspirational words of exhortation,edification and comfort.

Yes there will be false prophesies and men who seek their own edification rather than that of the Church...but this in no way negates the prophetic ministry of the Holy Spirit...it is not man that produces prophecy but G-d who wills it.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

Rom 12:4 For even as we have many members in one body, and all the members don't have the same function,

Rom 12:5 so we, who are many, are one body in Messiah, and individually members one of another.

Rom 12:6 Having gifts differing according to the grace that was given to us, if prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of our faith;

Rom 12:7 or service, let us give ourselves to service; or he who teaches, to his teaching;

Rom 12:8 or he who exhorts, to his exhorting: he who gives, let him do it with liberality; he who rules, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Thank you Botz, you said that so much better than what I can say. I agree 100%.

Debbie

[stevehut]

So there are no more miracles, teachers, healings, tongues or apostles either?

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The question was about prophets.

[stevehut]

G-d does speak to people through the Holy Ghost in dreams and visions and through inspirational words of exhortation,edification and comfort.

Of course.

But that wasn't the question.

[Guest Called]

QUOTE (Called @ Jul 26 2004, 12:18 PM)

So there are no more miracles, teachers, healings, tongues or apostles either?

[tsth]

2. of men filled with the Spirit of God, who by God's authority and command in words of weight pleads the cause of God and urges salvation of men

3. in the religious assemblies of the Christians, they were moved by the Holy Spirit to speak, having power to instruct, comfort, encourage, rebuke, convict, and stimulate, their hearers

A couple of other def. of "prophets" That seem relevant to the office today, and in context, seemingly still evident that the title of prophet could still be used for men today.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[stevehut]

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments,

Alrighty, then...

Mark 17:17-18

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them"

Do you know people who play with snakes and drink poison?

[Guest idied2]

I don't believe that we have (or need) prophets today. Now that we have a complete Bible (Old and New Testaments) to reveal God's will to us, why would you need a prophet?

Aparently the LORD thinks you do.

Re 11:10

And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Guest Called]

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them"

Do you know people who play with snakes and drink poison?

Actually my hubby plays with snakes all the time (he is a redneck) and if I accidentally drank poision, I would have enough faith that I would be healed. ANy other questions?