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wyguy Posted January 12, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted January 12, 2010 1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 1Jn 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 1Jn 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. The conviction i feel when i sin..is this my heart condemning me?... and therefore mean i am lacking confidence in God? Preceding scriptures say children of God do not continue to sin. Maybe this condemned heart is different from the conviction i feel when i sin,and my heart is not condemned because Lord Jesus is my rock...because i believe on His name and love my neighbour? I would appreciate views on this please. david+ Conviction comes from the Holy Spirit through your God given conscience. Your conscience tells you when you've done something wrong. Christians do not live a life defined by sin. That's not to say we don't ever sin, or ever reach a state where we will never sin in this life. There's an old saying that applies: "An unbeliever leaps into sin and loves it, but a Christian falls into sin and loathes it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 12, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2010 I agree with Wyguy on this. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin, pointing us back to Christ. If was have self condemnation, it is because we are refusing to accept the conviction of our sin. If we accept the conviction of the Holy Spirit and repent, but still have thoughts of condemnation, it is not of God, but of the devil. There is a difference and we need to understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Horn Posted January 12, 2010 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 178 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2010 I don't know if I understandyour question but may be James 4:17 speaks to it. Jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babbler Posted January 13, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 550 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/08/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2010 1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 1Jn 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 1Jn 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. The conviction i feel when i sin..is this my heart condemning me?... and therefore mean i am lacking confidence in God? Preceding scriptures say children of God do not continue to sin. Maybe this condemned heart is different from the conviction i feel when i sin,and my heart is not condemned because Lord Jesus is my rock...because i believe on His name and love my neighbour? I would appreciate views on this please. david+ Conviction comes from the Holy Spirit through your God given conscience. Your conscience tells you when you've done something wrong. Christians do not live a life defined by sin. That's not to say we don't ever sin, or ever reach a state where we will never sin in this life. There's an old saying that applies: "An unbeliever leaps into sin and loves it, but a Christian falls into sin and loathes it." Thank you wyguy. Your post makes me feel better about myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted January 13, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,272 Content Per Day: 4.88 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted January 13, 2010 As Christians we all still sin, we just strive not to do it on purpose and we seek the Holy Spirit's help in changing our person. If you claim to be a Christian and aren't convicted about what you do, then you need to re-evaluate your salvation. (Not you specifically) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 13, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 827 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 12,101 Content Per Day: 1.50 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2010 1Jn 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. Here's my understanding: our heart will condemn us if we have secret, hidden sins. For, if we're living a life of hypocrisy, we know it, and our heart will tell us. We'll feel guilty. And, God knows our heart far better than we do. so, if we live with hidden sin, not only will we know it inside, but God also knows it. On the other hand, if our heart does not condemn us, if we do not have sin in our lives that we try to conceal, then we're confident when we go before the Lord, because we are walking upright before Him. that's why the next verse says: 1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 13, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2010 I agree with Wyguy on this. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin, pointing us back to Christ. If was have self condemnation, it is because we are refusing to accept the conviction of our sin. If we accept the conviction of the Holy Spirit and repent, but still have thoughts of condemnation, it is not of God, but of the devil. There is a difference and we need to understand this. Onelight..so if i sin ,am remorseful and repentant i should have no feelings of guilt or condemnation? This means my heart is right towards, and I have confidence in, God? I will agree with Traveller on this. If you have no sin, you will have no conviction. We repent of known sin, yet, there may be sin that we are unaware of that God is trying to make us aware of. If we still feel that we are condemned, then we should ask Him to point this our more specifically. If your heart does not condemn you, they yes, your faith is greater in Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted January 14, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2010 1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 1Jn 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 1Jn 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. The conviction i feel when i sin..is this my heart condemning me?... and therefore mean i am lacking confidence in God? Preceding scriptures say children of God do not continue to sin. Maybe this condemned heart is different from the conviction i feel when i sin,and my heart is not condemned because Lord Jesus is my rock...because i believe on His name and love my neighbour? I would appreciate views on this please. david+ Whenever we approach God in prayer when we have sin in our life that takes our confidence away from us as the sin condemns us before God to where we can't ask what we will in the presence of God So to get your confidence back you have to repent of sins. Whenever we approach the Lord in prayer and our hearts doesn't condemn us before him and we have no known sin residing in our hearts this gives us confidence before the Lord. We can ask what we will and God hears our prayers. If our heart condemn us "NOT" then we have "Confidence" toward him. John 15:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted January 14, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,063 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 427 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2010 1Jn 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. Here's my understanding: our heart will condemn us if we have secret, hidden sins. For, if we're living a life of hypocrisy, we know it, and our heart will tell us. We'll feel guilty. And, God knows our heart far better than we do. so, if we live with hidden sin, not only will we know it inside, but God also knows it. On the other hand, if our heart does not condemn us, if we do not have sin in our lives that we try to conceal, then we're confident when we go before the Lord, because we are walking upright before Him. that's why the next verse says: 1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. No one knows the person in the mirror better that than they . . . except God. We know when we are lacking faith, feeling bitter, or angry at someone, or have felt offended and resentful. Yet our own heart has but a limited understanding of God's holiness and righteousness. If our own heart finds fault whereby it condemns us of sin, be assure that with Him in who there is no shadow or variableness or turning from righteousness, He too see the fault and is piercing the heart in hopes of repentance. For consciousness of sin is like a slippery slime on the rock of righteousness on which none can stand secure. Be quick to repent. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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