Jews race or religion?

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I believe that the Bible states clearly that the Jewish people are of the Semitic race.

Meanwhile they are a peculiar people whom the Lord has chosen unto Himself;

De

[Guest HIS girl]

'MorningGlory'

It's all about climate, IMO. Far north and cold = light skin, which allows more absorption of sunlight. South and warm = darker skin, to limit the absorption of sunlight.

I thought the more melanin (dark pigmentation) allowed for more sunlight - hot climate

Less melanin (pale pigmentation) limited amount of sunlight......cold climate

and it is regional - all the physical differences....

[mizzdy]

Judah or Jews are just one tribe or brother within the whole of the tribes of Israel. Jew became the catchall name for all the Israelites after the captivity who observed the Sabbath, who kept the commandments of God. Many do consider it a 'race' yet I think they are a distinct and unique group of people who have tried and pretty much succeeded in keeping their identity which God gave to them and the rest of the Israelites. Shiloh and/or Yod are much better at explaining who the Jews are than I am though.

I thought Abraham was the first Jewish man

Abraham was called a Hebrew a descendant of Eber from what I understand.

[mizzdy]

still not sure if being Jewish has to do with birth or religion. Were they set apart by God because of race or following His law?

Judah is the tribe the Jews are from, just as Paul said he was of the tribe of Benjamin after the kingdoms were taken into captivity the northern tribe lost their national identity of being part of Israel, when those returned they all became known as Jews, all the tribe under one name. Think of it as this you are born into a large family with 12 brothers yet all of you are known as 'lansings' that being your fathers name so therefore you are a 'lansing' over the decades everyone goes their own way but all keep a specific trait and no matter where you go in the world you will always been know by that name. If you are born Italian you are always Italian. The reason the Israelites were brought out of Egypt was Gods promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, He made a covenant with him that included all his descendant. These Israelites were separate from the rest of the people because they did follow His commandments just are all of His children who walk in His ways are to be separated from the rest of the world by their actions and behaviors.

[e lansing]

Well, for one thing, Jews are of all races, Germans are not distinct from other Caucasions and I'm not sure about the rest. The races are best understood by examining the area of the world the ancestors came from. It's all about climate, IMO. Far north and cold = light skin, which allows more absorption of sunlight. South and warm = darker skin, to limit the absorption of sunlight. The reason there are more races now is because the world is filled with people whereas, in Noah's time, there were very few.

Actually, some folks believe there could have been 6 billion people on the earth at the time of Noah.

All from Adam and Eve Right! What about the race that was on the ark, did all of the race evolve according to the environment?

Actually, YES! The Word of God states that this is the case and I believe it. These folks would have come from Adam and Eve. As I have already stated, there could have been upwards of 40 billion people on the earth at the time of the flood.

Given the situation with longevity and the ravages of disease not being as rampant. Theoretically and Mathematically, it is possible. Men were killing each other in acts of murder and through accident but were not as inclined to die of natural causes. Thus their child rearing ages would have been drastically expanded. We know from the Bible that some men of old were notorious in their capacity for sin and the ability to dream up new sin.

In a Juxtaposition what longevity has been lacking today, technology has more than madeup for. We live in a time not that all uncommon from Noah's for the capacity to sin and the notorious ability to dream up new ways to achieve our sinful thought's.

Mt

[Guest yod]

Judah is the tribe the Jews are from, just as Paul said he was of the tribe of Benjamin

c'mon now mizzdy...don't start that. my dear sister. We advanced beyond the Babylonian captivity at least 600 BC

Paul also said he was an Israelite in that same verse you are referencing. Please don't post that 2-House error here.

Jacob refers to all 12 tribes.....Jews are from all 12 tribes....and Israelites are from all 12 tribes.

Gentiles are The Nations mentioned in Isaiah 60:1

Isaiah 60

The Glory of Zion

1 "Arise, shine, for your light has come,

and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.

2 See, darkness covers the earth

and thick darkness is over the peoples,

but the LORD rises upon you

and his glory appears over you.

3 Nations will come to your light,

and kings to the brightness of your dawn.

4 "Lift up your eyes and look about you:

All assemble and come to you;

your sons come from afar,

and your daughters are carried on the arm.

5 Then you will look and be radiant,

your heart will throb and swell with joy;

the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,

to you the riches of the nations will come.

6 Herds of camels will cover your land,

young camels of Midian and Ephah.

And all from Sheba will come,

bearing gold and incense

and proclaiming the praise of the LORD.

7 All Kedar's flocks will be gathered to you,

the rams of Nebaioth will serve you;

they will be accepted as offerings on my altar,

and I will adorn my glorious temple.

8 "Who are these that fly along like clouds,

like doves to their nests?

9 Surely the islands look to me;

in the lead are the ships of Tarshish,

bringing your sons from afar,

with their silver and gold,

to the honor of the LORD your God,

the Holy One of Israel,

for he has endowed you with splendor.

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,

and their kings will serve you.

Though in anger I struck you,

in favor I will show you compassion.

11 Your gates will always stand open,

they will never be shut, day or night,

so that men may bring you the wealth of the nations

[Matthitjah]

Well, for one thing, Jews are of all races, Germans are not distinct from other Caucasions and I'm not sure about the rest. The races are best understood by examining the area of the world the ancestors came from. It's all about climate, IMO. Far north and cold = light skin, which allows more absorption of sunlight. South and warm = darker skin, to limit the absorption of sunlight. The reason there are more races now is because the world is filled with people whereas, in Noah's time, there were very few.

Actually, some folks believe there could have been 6 billion people on the earth at the time of Noah.

All from Adam and Eve Right! What about the race that was on the ark, did all of the race evolve according to the environment?

Actually, YES! The Word of God states that this is the case and I believe it. These folks would have come from Adam and Eve. As I have already stated, there could have been upwards of 40 billion people on the earth at the time of the flood.

Given the situation with longevity and the ravages of disease not being as rampant. Theoretically and Mathematically, it is possible. Men were killing each other in acts of murder and through accident but were not as inclined to die of natural causes. Thus their child rearing ages would have been drastically expanded. We know from the Bible that some men of old were notorious in their capacity for sin and the ability to dream up new sin.

In a Juxtaposition what longevity has been lacking today, technology has more than madeup for. We live in a time not that all uncommon from Noah's for the capacity to sin and the notorious ability to dream up new ways to achieve our sinful thought's.

Mt

[Guest shiloh357]

Jews race or religion?, What makes them distinct?

The Jewish people do comprise a specfic ethnicity. "Jew" is not a religion. Judaism is the religion of a majority of Jewish people

Jewish people are distinct as God's nation (Jer. 31 35,36) set apart by Him to be a light to the nations, and God has an eternal covenant with them (Gen. 17:8,)

[mizzdy]

Judah is the tribe the Jews are from, just as Paul said he was of the tribe of Benjamin

c'mon now mizzdy...don't start that. my dear sister. We advanced beyond the Babylonian captivity at least 600 BC

Paul also said he was an Israelite in that same verse you are referencing. Please don't post that 2-House error here.

Jacob refers to all 12 tribes.....Jews are from all 12 tribes....and Israelites are from all 12 tribes.

Gentiles are The Nations mentioned in Isaiah 60:1

Not posting anything of the sort, is it not true that Judah is a tribe? Are the Jews today just Judah? I would think not, no one knows who or what tribe, if any, they are from. Not everyone as you are aware knows where Judah, Jews came from nor who Israel is, my attempt was to show where it started. I understand who Israel is I also understand who the Jews are but the OP was asking who or what Jews are, the topic of who Israel is and all things related are popping up everywhere these days so it does seem many are still confused. Gentiles were also apart of the peoples that came out of Egypt. I so get weary of the constant separation people put over Gods children. Paul did say that so I guess I should have posted that also to make it all perfectly clear that there is no separation in the body of Yeshua. I may have posted things not up to standard or maybe I could have better clarified what I was trying to convey, I do give it my best shot anyhow.

Mizz

[Guest yod]

Judah is the tribe the Jews are from, just as Paul said he was of the tribe of Benjamin

c'mon now mizzdy...don't start that. my dear sister. We advanced beyond the Babylonian captivity at least 600 BC

Paul also said he was an Israelite in that same verse you are referencing. Please don't post that 2-House error here.

Jacob refers to all 12 tribes.....Jews are from all 12 tribes....and Israelites are from all 12 tribes.

Gentiles are The Nations mentioned in Isaiah 60:1

Not posting anything of the sort, is it not true that Judah is a tribe? Are the Jews today just Judah? I would think not, no one knows who or what tribe, if any, they are from. Not everyone as you are aware knows where Judah, Jews came from nor who Israel is, my attempt was to show where it started. I understand who Israel is I also understand who the Jews are but the OP was asking who or what Jews are, the topic of who Israel is and all things related are popping up everywhere these days so it does seem many are still confused. Gentiles were also apart of the peoples that came out of Egypt. I so get weary of the constant separation people put over Gods children. Paul did say that so I guess I should have posted that also to make it all perfectly clear that there is no separation in the body of Yeshua. I may have posted things not up to standard or maybe I could have better clarified what I was trying to convey, I do give it my best shot anyhow.

Mizz

I do tend to be sensitive and testy about that.

I apologize for jumping to that conclusion so quickly. forgive me?