Listening to the Holy Spirit

[Permie]

I think it's important to note that in our Christian life we need to be balanced between the Spirit and the Word. The Spirit never speaks anything outside God's Word, and God does not Himself ever act outside the confines of what He has revealed in the Scriptures.

The Spirit and the Word are much like a train on a track. Without fuel (The Spirit) the train (our Christian life) will never get down the track (The Word). So also without the track as the leading and course our train will eventually wreck. Many denominations emphasize the Word over the experience of Christ as the life-giving Spirit. These are sometimes called "dead" churches. Then many denominations emphasize the Spirit over the Word, preferring experience over the letter. Those in this category are often referred to as abberent groups. No group, no denomination should sacrifice the genuine and balanced experiences of Christ for the letter of the Word. So also, no denomination should forsake the guiding, the leading, of the Word of God for spiritual experience.

Very well said!

Aside from clear Biblical heresy and passivity, these are the two leading problems in the Body of Christ today.

That and fear.

[Ovedya]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

[Permie]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

[Ovedya]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

I don't know that I sin out of fear. I believe I sin because my flesh wills it and is warring against my spirit (Romans 7). So, as for fear being "the root of all sins"....Eh....

[Fez]

I think it's important to note that in our Christian life we need to be balanced between the Spirit and the Word. The Spirit never speaks anything outside God's Word, and God does not Himself ever act outside the confines of what He has revealed in the Scriptures.

The Spirit and the Word are much like a train on a track. Without fuel (The Spirit) the train (our Christian life) will never get down the track (The Word). So also without the track as the leading and course our train will eventually wreck. Many denominations emphasize the Word over the experience of Christ as the life-giving Spirit. These are sometimes called "dead" churches. Then many denominations emphasize the Spirit over the Word, preferring experience over the letter. Those in this category are often referred to as abberent groups. No group, no denomination should sacrifice the genuine and balanced experiences of Christ for the letter of the Word. So also, no denomination should forsake the guiding, the leading, of the Word of God for spiritual experience. Aside from clear Biblical heresy and passivity, these are the two leading problems in the Body of Christ today.

Amen, it is all about balance! (can't find a scripture offhand, but sometimes common sense should prevail )

[OneLight]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

Hate is the opposite of love, even though fear is also a powerful emotion. We can love and fear at the same time. We can not love and hate at the same time.

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 15:33

The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility.

[Permie]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

Hate is the opposite of love, even though fear is also a powerful emotion. We can love and fear at the same time. We can not love and hate at the same time.

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 15:33

The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility.

Thank you for proving what I said: Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, ...

When we fear God we will obey Him.

Edited January 26, 2010 by Permie

[Ovedya]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

Hate is the opposite of love, even though fear is also a powerful emotion. We can love and fear at the same time. We can not love and hate at the same time.

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 15:33

The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility.

Thank you for proving what I said: Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, ...

When we fear God we will obey Him.

He just proved that hate is the opposite of love, when you claimed that fear was the opposite of love.

The type of fear spoken of in Proverbs is "a healthy respect." It's not the type that causes people to cower in a corner and pee their pants.

[OneLight]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

Hate is the opposite of love, even though fear is also a powerful emotion. We can love and fear at the same time. We can not love and hate at the same time.

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 15:33

The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility.

Thank you for proving what I said: Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, ...

When we fear God we will obey Him.

There is no sense in what you say. One can fear the Lord and love Him. One can not hate the Lord and love Him. Fear and Love are not opposites, no matter how hard you try to make them such.

[Permie]

That and fear.

Not sure about fear. That's a human problem.

I would think that all spiritual woes are a human problem. It is my opinion that fear is the root of all sins as fear is the true opposite of love. Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, but it is fear.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18

Hate is the opposite of love, even though fear is also a powerful emotion. We can love and fear at the same time. We can not love and hate at the same time.

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 15:33

The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility.

Thank you for proving what I said: Many think that it is hate that is the opposite, ...

When we fear God we will obey Him.

He just proved that hate is the opposite of love, when you claimed that fear was the opposite of love.

The type of fear spoken of in Proverbs is "a healthy respect." It's not the type that causes people to cower in a corner and pee their pants.

And as is usual the proving scripture was ignored that said that there is no fear in perfected love. And just why would that be?

As for the healthy respect, correct, I agree. Same holds true, when we respect God we will obey Him. If we don't, well there's plenty of scripture about that. The first whom are thrown in the lake of fire are the fearful.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 21:8