Site about Divorce

[artsylady]

http://www.divorcehope.com/christiandivorcefacts.htm

I thought this was pretty good - especially the part about God telling Abraham to stop the sacrifice and about how the church has seemed to have placed the institution of marriage above the individuals in it.

[2Joyful]

Greetings

Yes very good and its put together well.

No one will understand why, except someone who HAVE been doing what is right TOO long.

[artsylady]

No one will understand why, except someone who HAVE been doing what is right TOO long.

I understand that all too well.

I also thought the understanding of God hates 'putting away' rather than 'God hates divorce' as a better translation.

[Smalcald]

There are some couples who are enjoying their marriage. There are also many couples who find their marriage like an anchor around their neck pulling them under water for the third time. A proper marriage is very wonderful and very beautiful; however, it is possible to stay married and be doing the

[artsylady]

Christians don't need more excuses to divorce we are already divorcing at rates at least as high and sometimes HIGHER than non-believers.

But is divorce some kind of horrible sin according to God, or is there just a stigma to those who are divorced based on religiousity?

[artsylady]

the church has seemed to have placed the institution of marriage above the individuals in it.

Do you agree with this? If yes, when has God placed the institution of marriage above the individuals?

What about this?

In Jeremiah the eighth chapter, Jeremiah mourns over the inhabitants of Jerusalem. The Lord gave them a warning through the prophet in verses 4-22. In verse 5, it says that they were

[OneLight]

Marriage based on true love:

1 Corinthians 13:4-8a

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.

Condition of man in the last days:

Matthew 24:12b

the love of many will grow cold

1 Timothy 4:1-2

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,

2 Timothy 3:1-5

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

This is the reason why divorce is so prevalent in today's society, we have lost our love. To say that God considers the person more then the institution is correct, but that being correct does not mean He goes against His word. Jesus tells us that the only reason He allows divorce is because of sexual impurity outside of marriage. Paul includes if an unbeliever leaves because of your faith. Nowhere does it say that we should divorce because we are unhappy in our marriage.

This scares me to death that it is being seen as love ...

If we miss the Word of God or the voice of God and continue in a marriage longer than we’re supposed to, we too, can become a sacrifice that was not intended.

Is there a time limit on our word to another? Where in scripture do you find that marriage was not meant to be forever? These words do not point to God, as the author indicates, but to the world and their lack of obedience and lack of faith. Are we not told to not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God? To say that God will tell us that our time for marriage is over is saying that God is going against his own word when He says "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." and "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."

I disagree with what this person is teaching and see it as false teaching, opening a door for those who are walking after their own flesh. Separation is one thing ... divorce is another. Protection and healing is one thing ... divorce is another.

[artsylady]

Marriage based on true love:

1 Corinthians 13:4-8a

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.

But what if you're married to someone who is incapable of love?

1 Timothy 4:1-2

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,

What if the doctrine is 'to death due us part'? Which is not in the Bible?

2 Timothy 3:1-5

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

What if you are married to someone just like this?

This is the reason why divorce is so prevalent in today's society, we have lost our love. To say that God considers the person more then the institution is correct, but that being correct does not mean He goes against His word. Jesus tells us that the only reason He allows divorce is because of sexual impurity outside of marriage. Paul includes if an unbeliever leaves because of your faith. Nowhere does it say that we should divorce because we are unhappy in our marriage.

I don't have time, but will look this up later. I remember reading about Jesus meeting a woman divorced 4 times. He didn't seem upset with the divorces but the fact that she was not married to the man she was living with.

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If we miss the Word of God or the voice of God and continue in a marriage longer than we

[traveller]

The church has said pastors, deacons etc cant' be divorced but where is that in the Bible? Is it in there?

1Ti 3:1 This [is] a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

[OneLight]

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You are trying to look far and wide for loopholes in scripture to justify divorce. If you search the scriptures, you will see that there are none but what Christ and Paul gave. It was said that out of the hardness of the heart that Moses granted them the decree of divorce, but Christ nullified this decree.

Do not take what someone say as scripture because you like what they are saying. Take what they say and place it beside scripture to see if it lines up with the word of God. If it does, then accept it with happiness. If it does not, either reject it as false teaching or take the persons word over His word.