Health care bill on C-Span

[MorningGlory]

Is anyone watching C-Span?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100321/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1288

This bill is going to pass unless something unforeseen happens.....what then?

[exrockstar]

i consider myself a conservative and vote republican. with that being said...i am torn by this reform.

it sux that we'll all have to pay more however insurance companies need guidelines so as not to

take advantage of people. they do

[Matthitjah]

All hell breaks loose tomorrow over this. The AG of Florida will file suit in the Supreme Court against it, along with 37 other AG's from 37 States.

There is also word that because they changed the original draft of the Senate version that they passed that the Sentae will demand it be returned to them for a vote. It's no longer the Senate bill it's a new version of it that the Senate didn't actually vote on.

No Republican will vote on it and it requuires a majority to pass. They don't have the votes in the Senate.

However, the Law hasn't stopped them up to this point.

It's actually a downright despicable shame that this has been foisted upon the American citizen.

[MorningGlory]

I've been watching all day. Cspan is my main source of news. There have been no pundits "translating" for me, so I am seeing what is going on in Congress uncensored,

What then? My brother who was BORN with a pre-existing disability will finally be able to buy health insurance.

I try to watch C-span, I really don't trust any of the media completely, but it's SO boring! I have to listen to it while doing something else. They are voting right now; I hear them.

I hope your brother does get his insurance, KatyAnn. I'm torn on this too; two of my kids don't have insurance through their employers because they're considered self-employed. It's rough. I like my own insurance but I want everyone else to have it too. And then I don't like the government intruding in our lives and I don't trust them to do it right. It's not a simple black and white thing to me.

[Guest yod]

The fight is just beginning....

Evryone wants reform and evryone wants insurance companies to do the right thing but that has never been the issue here

This is taxation without representation when they craft it behind locked doors with half of the nations representatives locked out of the process. This was done because there are so many things in it that have nothing to do with health care.

Now we find that they are adding 17,000 IRS agents to enforce it. why the IRS?

They are above the law in so many ways. They don't need a court order to search and seize property. The Gestapo didn't have any more power than the IRS

That should scare the **** out of everyone and it tells me all I need to know. Forcing people to buy something from the government is against the Constitution. This MUST not stand because of the power grab and because of the things hidden in this that no one knows about, including Obama.

[exrockstar]

I'm torn on this too; two of my kids don't have insurance through their employers because they're considered self-employed. It's rough. I like my own insurance but I want everyone else to have it too. And then I don't like the government intruding in our lives and I don't trust them to do it right. It's not a simple black and white thing to me.

i am definitely not a fan of the way the Dems are sneaking around this voting method. However I do have a good job

with good pay and the insurance company of mine, CIGNA, changed a drug i take seasonally to "non-preferred."

This was a couple of years back but theres nothing i can do about that. i do understand that CIGNA may have to

negotiate with pharmaceutical companies etc etc. But all this means that me as a consumer has to play the sidelines.

I have no say so. I have no choice. Yeah i can live without the drug but I can also imagine how many other people

with other conditions have to play the sidelines too. This has been a growing problem.

[exrockstar]

The fight is just beginning....

Evryone wants reform and evryone wants insurance companies to do the right thing but that has never been the issue here

The thing is that this problem isn't new. Reform should have happened a while ago.

We're upset because the dems are going to reform it their way. Yeah we hate it because we'll have to follow

their conditions. Nevertheless, Repubs had the ball once but we had other agenda's in mind.

im not saying that i support whats going on but health reform was needed for (what?)...a couple of decades?

[udx]

It looked like it has just passed.

Update: motion to recommit failed.

Edited March 22, 2010 by udx

[Guest yod]

Yod, I'd be interested to know what things are hidden in this legislation (it is no longer a bill) that no one knows about.

I think everyone would!

The way it has been handled and hidden is the problem. Half of Congress has been excluded the entire time and that's just wrong. Many people offered solutions and options which simply weren't even allowed a discussion...but then they lie and say no alternatives were offered.

Obviously they think Americans are too stupid to know a skunk when we smell it

the arrogance and lies and ridicule of people who simply want our Constitutionally guarantees voice in the process is the problem here but that doesn't stop them from claiming we simply don't want reform

that is abother bald faced lie...I can't stand insurance companies any more than lying politicians

[udx]

Yod, I'd be interested to know what things are hidden in this legislation (it is no longer a bill) that no one knows about.

I think everyone would!

The way it has been handled and hidden is the problem. Half of Congress has been excluded the entire time and that's just wrong. Many people offered solutions and options which simply weren't even allowed a discussion...but then they lie and say no alternatives were offered.

Obviously they think Americans are too stupid to know a skunk when we smell it

the arrogance and lies and ridicule of people who simply want our Constitutionally guarantees voice in the process is the problem here but that doesn't stop them from claiming we simply don't want reform

that is abother bald faced lie...I can't stand insurance companies any more than lying politicians

Thought they changed it back to a bill. It was voted on as such.