The natural vs. the spiritual

[nebula]

I was at a meeting tonight where the leader went through a brief history of the movings of the Holy Spirit in the past century. He pointed out the correlation between what happened in the natural with Israel and what happened in the spiritual with revival movements.

Zionism began in the late 1800's. The Welsh Revival began then, too. For example.

1967, Israel regained control of Jerusalem. Not long later, the Jesus movement began.

OK, I know not everyone here feels the same about these movements and such. But for me, for the first time since Obama was elected president, I actually feel hope. (Yes, I used the word "hope".)

I don't know what the Lord has planned with Israel right now. But if salvation comes to Israel through this - we've got good things coming form the hand of the Lord! Even if it's not so good for our country if we "curse" Israel, we the people of God have cause to rejoice if and when the Lord's hand moves to redeem Israel.

just thought I'd share.

[Guest HIS girl]

Thanks for sharing that Neb!

[~candice~]

Are you saying that what happens in revivals / movements, and in Israel, is illustrative of what is happening in the Spirit worldwide? Cause I agree with that . However, I see what is happening in America as consequential, not causal...

[nebula]

Are you saying that what happens in revivals / movements, and in Israel, is illustrative of what is happening in the Spirit worldwide? Cause I agree with that . However, I see what is happening in America as consequential, not causal...

I was saying it begins in/with Israel.

Recall the the first revival began in Scotland, not the US.

Now if physical America does something bad to physical Israel, something bad will likewise happen to physical America. But, if something prophetic happens in Israel, something will be released in the spiritual - and the Lord could begin reaping that harvest from any country.

[MorningGlory]

Are you saying that what happens in revivals / movements, and in Israel, is illustrative of what is happening in the Spirit worldwide? Cause I agree with that . However, I see what is happening in America as consequential, not causal...

I was saying it begins in/with Israel.

Recall the the first revival began in Scotland, not the US.

Now if physical America does something bad to physical Israel, something bad will likewise happen to physical America. But, if something prophetic happens in Israel, something will be released in the spiritual - and the Lord could begin reaping that harvest from any country.

[Matthitjah]

I think Paul has encapsulated your thought quite well;

Ro

[Guest]

.... it begins in/with Israel....

Amen!

It Began With Israel

The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek;

he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning,

the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness,

the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. Israel 61:1-3

And It Ends With Israel

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications:

and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son,

and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;

All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart. Zechariah 12:9-14

All Hail THE KING OF THE JEWS

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 1:12-18

My LORD And My God

[nebula]

Oh sweet! The words were recorded last night at put up on Facebook.

So if you have a Facebook account, you may hear the whole thing for yourself.

(It's at the beginning, so you don't have to listen to the whole sermon/teaching if you don't want to. . . . Although some of you might find the desire to listen to what comes beyond. . . .)

Global Tribe Vibe

[Blien]

This correlation was also, on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural this week. It's also on his website to watch. www.sidroth.org

[mulling]

Shalom,

America is going through 2 Choronicles 7:14-22 She has had a form of Godliness and has denied the true power of God, but not the remnant. It is the remnant that keeps the rightous standard of God and pleads before the mercy seat of God to relent his judgement upon this land who makes claims to trust in the living God.

Again Shalom

Mulling