Jesus would not accept Immigrants

[~candice~]

Oh andy,can you post the wise stewards scripture for me to save some time.

Luk 12:42-48 MKJV

42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward whom his lord shall set over his houseservants, to give them their portion of food in season?

43 Blessed is that servant when his lord comes and finds him so doing.

44 Truly I say to you that he will set him over all his possessions.

45 But if that servant says in his heart, My lord delays his coming, and shall begin to beat the male servants and women servants, and to eat and drink and to be drunk,

46 the lord of that servant will come in a day when he does not expect, and at an hour when he does not know. And he will cut him apart, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47 And that servant who knew his lord's will and did not prepare, nor did according to His will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48 But he not knowing, and doing things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomever much is given, of him much shall be required. And to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Luke 12:42-48 is not about money andy...It is about spiritual welfare.

You asked me to post it. What parable are you thinking of?

[Fez]

To me immigration is a result of the country the people are emigrating from being in a state of turmoil. Yes we should open our doors within reason to immigrants, but the crux of the matter is that we should be praying for the peace and good governance of the countries concerned.

Take Zimbabwe for instance. It is an awesome place with huge potential, once the breadbasket of Southern Africa. It is now a pile of ruins because of corruption, and one mans greed and need for power. There are millions, and I mean millions of illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe in South Africa, and what do we do? Persecute them, exploit them, and practice xenophobia against them.

What we should be doing is assisting Zimbabwe out of the mess it is in through government change, rather than platitudes. I am willing to bet that 90% of the immigrants would go back in a second if this was the case, because it is a beautiful country that holds so much promise.

So rather than looking for scripture to do with immigrants and strangers in our land, we should be looking for scripture that talks of healing the place from whence they came.

Blessings

[~candice~]

To me immigration is a result of the country the people are emigrating from being in a state of turmoil. Yes we should open our doors within reason to immigrants, but the crux of the matter is that we should be praying for the peace and good governance of the countries concerned.

Take Zimbabwe for instance. It is an awesome place with huge potential, once the breadbasket of Southern Africa. It is now a pile of ruins because of corruption, and one mans greed and need for power. There are millions, and I mean millions of illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe in South Africa, and what do we do? Persecute them, exploit them, and practice xenophobia against them.

What we should be doing is assisting Zimbabwe out of the mess it is in through government change, rather than platitudes. I am willing to bet that 90% of the immigrants would go back in a second if this was the case, because it is a beautiful country that holds so much promise.

So rather than looking for scripture to do with immigrants and strangers in our land, we should be looking for scripture that talks of healing the place from whence they came.

Blessings

Well.. yes and no.

Immigration is a reality, and I think a bible study on the topic, especially in such heated political times, would help. Many of us have never done a study on the topic before, and I personally want to know if my deep seated thoughts on immigration line up with the Word.

But yes, a study on how to bring healing and a restoration of order and justice to those lands would also be good. I liken it to 'teaching a man how to fish' rather than 'giving a man a fish'. Immigration is just a bandaid, fixing the homeland is the solution.

However, both are real issues at the moment and could benefit with prayer and study.

[~candice~]

Oh andy,can you post the wise stewards scripture for me to save some time.

Luk 12:42-48 MKJV

42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward whom his lord shall set over his houseservants, to give them their portion of food in season?

43 Blessed is that servant when his lord comes and finds him so doing.

44 Truly I say to you that he will set him over all his possessions.

45 But if that servant says in his heart, My lord delays his coming, and shall begin to beat the male servants and women servants, and to eat and drink and to be drunk,

46 the lord of that servant will come in a day when he does not expect, and at an hour when he does not know. And he will cut him apart, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47 And that servant who knew his lord's will and did not prepare, nor did according to His will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48 But he not knowing, and doing things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomever much is given, of him much shall be required. And to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Luke 12:42-48 is not about money andy...It is about spiritual welfare.

You asked me to post it. What parable are you thinking of?

Sorry andy..I was asking about your number 5 question on being wise stewards with money.

5 - the command to be wise stewards with our money and wise investors (now I am thinking of our national leaders who have economies to manage)

Yes, our political leaders need to find a balance between open free for all immigration, and balancing the economy. They need to be wise stewards with our tax dollars while still maintaining a steady influx of immigrants.

How did those scriptures not help?

[~candice~]

I posted because you asked me to. I thought you were going to expand on how they helped. If they don't, that's fine .

However, I do not believe that open borders would be a wise thing to do, since it would crash our economy. We also have to be wise stewards with our tax money, and what we use it for. What good are we going to be at helping the poor if we go out with a bang, and therefore are unable to sustain a persistant humanitarian front?

I believe the bible teaches both to care for our neighbour and to care for our money (economy).

[~candice~]

I posted because you asked me to. I thought you were going to expand on how they helped. If they don't, that's fine .

However, I do not believe that open borders would be a wise thing to do, since it would crash our economy. We also have to be wise stewards with our tax money, and what we use it for. What good are we going to be at helping the poor if we go out with a bang, and therefore are unable to sustain a persistant humanitarian front?

I believe the bible teaches both to care for our neighbour and to care for our money (economy).

Oky andy..can you post scriptures that tell us to be wise stewards with our money?Or as you have said "to care for our money(economy)"?

The parable of the talents .

[Fez]

It's a difficult subject to study I am finding. I am doing searches and dredging my memory for scriptures. I am sure the answer is in there somewhere, it always is.