Question for you Christians

[ServingHim]

To my fellow Christians:

Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to defend our actions? "Oh, well I've never done this..." The simple fact remains, we've all messed up and we've all caused hurt on an unbeliever. Maybe it's best to point them to the one we believe in. Afterall, He is the reason we believe, right?

Draigon, I'm looking forward to your responce.

absolutely ... we ALL FALL SHORT...

[apothanein kerdos]

Bombardments never work...just food for thought. Also, servinghim, i think you're misunderstanding her stance on free will.

Edited August 5, 2004 by Super Jew

[littleladyinblack]

Hmm.

Chazy.

[ServingHim]

Bombardments never work...just food for thought. Also, servinghim, i think you're misunderstanding her stance on free will.

then perhaps you should explain what her stance is for me...I didn't realize that I misunderstood it.

[tilly]

Welcome Draigon, I first seen this thread, and ....wow!.

I don't have much to add or say to this thread, but just wanted to thank you for comeing.

In Christ Great love, tilly

[apothanein kerdos]

Bombardments never work...just food for thought. Also, servinghim, i think you're misunderstanding her stance on free will.

then perhaps you should explain what her stance is for me...I didn't realize that I misunderstood it.

The belief is that if God knows the future, then our actions are already determined. We cannot change them at all because they have already happened. God's foreknowledge and free will cannot exsist at the same time. A page or two back I explained this and answered it, if you want to look it up.

[littleladyinblack]

I can understand where she is coming from.

Ive been put down MANY times by Christians. Im not fond of Evangelism as I dont think anyone should inflict their religion on someone else, no matter what they believe. I use the word "inflict" in describing people who try to force their beliefs on others when they have not been asked to share it.

Obviously Draigon had some questions about Christianity which were answered as best they could. The problem is when she starts blaming things on Christianity, and trying to find problems within the scripture.

A sign of insecurity?

Chazy.

[ServingHim]

Bombardments never work...just food for thought. Also, servinghim, i think you're misunderstanding her stance on free will.

then perhaps you should explain what her stance is for me...I didn't realize that I misunderstood it.

The belief is that if God knows the future, then our actions are already determined. We cannot change them at all because they have already happened. God's foreknowledge and free will cannot exsist at the same time. A page or two back I explained this and answered it, if you want to look it up.

thank you...I understood that, yet I believe that they CAN exist at the same time...as God is not limited to our humanistic intellect...

[apothanein kerdos]

I can understand where she is coming from.

Ive been put down MANY times by Christians. Im not fond of Evangelism as I dont think anyone should inflict their religion on someone else, no matter what they believe. I use the word "inflict" in describing people who try to force their beliefs on others when they have not been asked to share it.

Obviously Draigon had some questions about Christianity which were answered as best they could. The problem is when she starts blaming things on Christianity, and trying to find problems within the scripture.

A sign of insecurity?

Not a sign of insecurity, just a sign of age. All, believers and non-believers, have suffered at the hands of Christians. There is no doubt. The biggest problem with Christianity is that us Christians are so unlike our Christ. Thus for Draigon to question the Bible isn't a sign of insecurity, yet more of a sign of validation.

thank you...I understood that, yet I believe that they CAN exist at the same time...as God is not limited to our humanistic intellect...

It's wonderful you believe that, yet our beliefs are useless when we cannot convey them to other people. Not only do we need to state what we believe, but WHY we believe it and if possible, to use sources other than the Bible.

Edited August 5, 2004 by Super Jew

[ServingHim]

IIm not fond of Evangelism as I dont think anyone should inflict their religion on someone else, no matter what they believe. I use the word "inflict" in describing people who try to force their beliefs on others when they have not been asked to share it.

I agree with you lady.

Obviously Draigon had some questions about Christianity which were answered as best they could.

I know I tried the best I could to answer them...

The problem is when she starts blaming things on Christianity, and trying to find problems within the scripture.

A sign of insecurity?Chazy.

I think we ALL like to blame others on our own issues/problems/insecurities in 'real life'...it's easy to blame the religion for our screwed up lives, and it's easy to blame God for why things aren't going right for us. But, until we really desire to know the Truth of the WHYS, then we'll never be at peace. I trust, draigon, that God will work all of those rotten things that have happened to you in the course of your short life her earth for good, even if you won't see it until you are gone from this life. Whoever said that life was going to be easy? Anyway, I like you as a person regardless of what you believe. You are a child of God, regardless of what you think you are. That is who you are! Period. God created YOU, special, unique, and individual. YOU ARE a part of HIS PLAN, regardless of whether you believe it or not. YOU ARE loved even though you don't 'feel' it. I would like to help you find out who you are. :hug: