Sin, once repented, always forgiven?

[BobTriez]

Read Hebrews 12:4-11, I think this may answer your question. Once you accept Christ, you become God's child. But, like any good earthly father would do...God (as your Heavenly Father) will sometimes discipline you when you stray. So if you are asking if you will still face some consequences, the answer would be yes. If you committed a crime (such as stealing a car) and then asked for forgiveness, you would be forgiven ..yet you would still need to be punished for the crime. Capische?

I agree with this, but you cannot continue to live in blatant sin and think you are okay, cause your not...( I am saying you in general terms) Consequences will be alot higher.

Well, now we're getting into theology

Here's what I believe:

#1 If you are a believer, the Holy Spirit dwells inside you. Thus, He draws you to the Father. You will WANT to live for the Lord. He will compel you to do so.

#2 Define "cannot". If you mean "cannot" as in "you are unable to", well..we know this isn't true. We can see Paul's own struggle with sin in Romans 7. It IS possible to struggle with sin and be saved. However, if you mean "cannot" as in "you would be miserable because the Holy Spirit would convict you" then I can agree with that.

#3 I agree that forgiveness of sin is NOT equal to license to sin. I believe if someone has this attitude they are deceived and the truth is not in them at all. Romans 6:1-2 clearly says that we should not abuse grace.

I know I said we really didn't want this to turn into a OSAS debate, but we can discuss it civilly since there are lot of misconceptions about it going around........I guess I'd ask you straight out if you believe in once saved always saved and we'll take it from there ( if you don't mind answering )

God bless,

Bob

[Guest Called]

#2 Define "cannot". If you mean "cannot" as in "you are unable to", well..we know this isn't true. We can see Paul's own struggle with sin in Romans 7. It IS possible to struggle with sin and be saved. However, if you mean "cannot" as in "you would be miserable because the Holy Spirit would convict you" then I can agree with that.

By cannot I mean that if you live in blatant and rebellious sin you will go to hell... that is what I meant... Sorry for the misunderstanding

[Kabowd]

I know I said we really didn't want this to turn into a OSAS debate, but we can discuss it civilly since there are lot of misconceptions about it going around........I guess I'd ask you straight out if you believe in once saved always saved and we'll take it from there ( if you don't mind answering )

God bless,

Bob

Yes, that's what I believe. Is the primary belief around here otherwise?

[Guest LCPGUY]

#2 Define "cannot". If you mean "cannot" as in "you are unable to", well..we know this isn't true. We can see Paul's own struggle with sin in Romans 7. It IS possible to struggle with sin and be saved. However, if you mean "cannot" as in "you would be miserable because the Holy Spirit would convict you" then I can agree with that.

By cannot I mean that if you live in blatant and rebellious sin you will go to hell... that is what I meant... Sorry for the misunderstanding

The blood of Christ, His finished work, covered ALL sin. Not just some, or any degree thereof. If it were any different, where

[Guest Puddin]

Thank you Bob, Called, LCP, Tess and StillLearnin' for what you said. I am not interested in a once saved, always saved debate.

I have a personal issue in my life that I require clarification about. The sin in question was repented of whole heartedly. I do not intend on sinning that way ever again. I have learnt of what I have done, but I want to know, if there will be forgiveness from God in the sense that he will protect me from... well God knows the rest.

I would be honoured if you would all pray about this for me.

Puddin

PS: Chocolate rocks :il: But Jesus rocks even MORE :hug:

[Guest LCPGUY]

Thank you Bob, Called, LCP, Tess and StillLearnin' for what you said. I am not interested in a once saved, always saved debate.

I have a personal issue in my life that I require clarification about. The sin in question was repented of whole heartedly. I do not intend on sinning that way ever again. I have learnt of what I have done, but I want to know, if there will be forgiveness from God in the sense that he will protect me from... well God knows the rest.

I would be honoured if you would all pray about this for me.

Puddin

PS: Chocolate rocks :il: But Jesus rocks even MORE :hug:

Puddin

[stilllearnin']

It would be a privilege to pray for you, Puddin.

[Khristeeanos]

Let's talk about a certain sin for an example.

Say the sin of overeating (gluttony).

If I am a glutton and really struggle with overeating, each and every time is a sin. But if I repent of my sins, God forgives me.

1 John 1:9 is written to born-again Christians and tells them that their forgiveness of future sins is conditional upon repenting.

That will probably be argued, but that is the clear teaching of Scripture. If does mean if in any dictionary you look it up in.

My future struggles have nothing to do with my past. Once I repent, I am forgiven. But I should (as the Bible says) strive and make every effort to live holy (abstaining from all sin).

The Apostle Paul most certainly did not struggle with sin. Romans 7 is taken out of context by most people who want to justify their sinful lives. (He asked Who would save him and then answered that question when he said that Jesus HAD saved him from that sinful lifestyle)

Sort of having your cake and eating it too, I guess. :x:

He said to imitate Him as he imiatated Christ.

He said that people were aware that he lived a holy life and was blameless and was an example how to live.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Let's talk about a certain sin for an example.

Say the sin of overeating (gluttony).

If I am a glutton and really struggle with overeating, each and every time is a sin. But if I repent of my sins, God forgives me.

1 John 1:9 is written to born-again Christians and tells them that their forgiveness of future sins is conditional upon repenting.

That will probably be argued, but that is the clear teaching of Scripture. If does mean if in any dictionary you look it up in.

My future struggles have nothing to do with my past. Once I repent, I am forgiven. But I should (as the Bible says) strive and make every effort to live holy (abstaining from all sin).

The Apostle Paul most certainly did not struggle with sin. Romans 7 is taken out of context by most people who want to justify their sinful lives. (He asked Who would save him and then answered that question when he said that Jesus HAD saved him from that sinful lifestyle)

Sort of having your cake and eating it too, I guess. :x:

He said to imitate Him as he imiatated Christ.

He said that people were aware that he lived a holy life and was blameless and was an example how to live.

Amen bro.

We should not say "well God knows I a sinner so why try to live holy."

God wants us to live a holy life. We are to flee sin.

God bless,

[BobTriez]

Let's talk about a certain sin for an example.

Say the sin of overeating (gluttony).

If I am a glutton and really struggle with overeating, each and every time is a sin.  But if I repent of my sins, God forgives me.

1 John 1:9 is written to born-again Christians and tells them that their forgiveness of future sins is conditional upon repenting.

That will probably be argued, but that is the clear teaching of Scripture.  If does mean if in any dictionary you look it up in.

My future struggles have nothing to do with my past.  Once I repent, I am forgiven.  But I should (as the Bible says) strive and make every effort to live holy (abstaining from all sin).

The Apostle Paul most certainly did not struggle with sin.  Romans 7 is taken out of context by most people who want to justify their sinful lives.  (He asked Who would save him and then answered that question when he said that Jesus HAD saved him from that sinful lifestyle)

Sort of having your cake and eating it too, I guess.  :x:

He said to imitate Him as he imiatated Christ.

He said that people were aware that he lived a holy life and was blameless and was an example how to live.

Amen bro.

We should not say "well God knows I a sinner so why try to live holy."

God wants us to live a holy life. We are to flee sin.

God bless,

Agree totally

God bless,

Bob