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Yod? :noidea:

You had me up until that point... how is the body of Christ not the bride of Christ?

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.

Eph 5:24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Eph 5:26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,

Eph 5:27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.

Eph 5:28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

Eph 5:29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church,

Eph 5:30 because we are members of his body.

Can you explain how the bride is new Jerusalem?

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I have heard on the radio that if you fly over a certain area of Israel, you can see God's name written on the land. Apparently there are aerial photos of this.

Yes, I have the photo but no longer remember where I found it online. The site where the letters are lies just east of Bethel - four letters, and the second from the right is clearest - looks like the equivalent of 'L'.


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I have heard on the radio that if you fly over a certain area of Israel, you can see God's name written on the land. Apparently there are aerial photos of this.

Yes, I have the photo but no longer remember where I found it online. The site where the letters are lies just east of Bethel - four letters, and the second from the right is clearest - looks like the equivalent of 'L'.

wow, that's awsome! perhaps you could share it with us?...i'd like to see it. :thumbsup:


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Yod? :thumbsup:

You had me up until that point... how is the body of Christ not the bride of Christ?

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.

Eph 5:24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Eph 5:26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,

Eph 5:27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.

Eph 5:28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

Eph 5:29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church,

Eph 5:30 because we are members of his body.

Can you explain how the bride is new Jerusalem?

You'll have to ask God when you see Him. That's what He says, I'm just quoting Him.

Revelation 21:2

I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

When you see the word "church" you should instead read "community of the faithful". That is the biblical definition but it is not what "church" has become since the second century. It became a thought-based greco-religion long ago...and that is not what biblical narrative ever intended. Faith isn't about what you think, it is "strong trust". This has been lost on the greco-church for millennia now.

The New Jerusalem will be a holy community made up of all the faithful from Israel and the Nations who trust God enough to keep His commandments. So many in the "church" (as it has come to be defined) will be included there, but it is not exclusive to an institution.

# Revelation 3:12

Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.

OK, that's making more sense.... somehow I misread what you wrote, to infer that the New Jerusalem was also a place.

If New Jerusalem is the assembly of believers, we are honkey dorey :thumbsup: .

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