Does this happen to anyone else?!

[logos7]

Here's what happened this morning. This is a model of what happens to me A LOT. I'm just wondering if it happens to ya'll too, and what you do.

I'm driving to work, talking with God about His word and interpretation vs. Holy Spirit revelation (I can be talking with Him about anything). I'm actually doing most of the talking, firing questions at Him endlessly, trying to understand what's in my own head and/or heart. He tells me that His word-the bible-is for the world; I don't 'need' it because I carry His word inside me-the Holy Spirit. He said the bible is so the world can test Him for faithfulness and truth (not His exact words, more an overall idea really...) We (Christians) claim this or that about Him, and we know it's true because His Spirit confirms His word in us; but the world has no way of testing the truth because they don't have His Spirit. So God gave them the bible.

I felt so wonderful! Wow! To think, I carry His whole Word and Truth inside of me! Its the same feeling I get when I remember that everything is already finished-I don't have to struggle, but rest...ahhh...peace. (thanks logos7 for putting into words what I feel and know but keep forgetting!) I have His word in me. It's a done deal...ahhh...peace.

And then...I started getting bombarded with all these verses that seem to counter what had just been revealed to me. Jesus quoted scripture all the time, Paul said we are to study His word, and there were others but they came so fast I couldn't track them all. Point being, there was enough of God's word for me to question the legitimacy of this "revelation". I don't know if I can call it a 'revelation' anymore. Who gave it me, and who bombarded me with God's word to dispell it? Was it God first, then Satan trying to confuse me? Or was it Satan first, and God protecting me? I know what was shown me in the revelation is true (God'll give me His word to confirm it, which will help me understand it better). At the same time, the verses were true too. And the two didn't necessarily contradict each other, but I did pause and consider and I now hesitate before I 'believing' anything.

Aside from the above confusion, this scenario is common with me. It happens when I read God's word, and when I'm praying, and sometimes when I'm not thinking of God at all. I receive understanding, then I'm hit with other verses that seem to contradict (but not always) what I've just been given. Does this happen to anyone else? If so, what do you do?

Stormy I may not have explained myself, will, but yes the Holy Spirit will guide and teach you (John 14:26) but the Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word of God (Isaiah 8:20). Please don't ignore the Scriptures but as you are studying them, let the Holy Spirit teach you. For this is the Spirit's job sometimes He will speak so clearly to your heart, you just know the message automatically, and other time He may use another Brother or Sister in the Lord to speak to you. But in the end God's Spirit in you, will keep and teach you.

For we read:

I Peter 1:22-23

22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethen, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.

23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The Holy Spirit will purified your soul, by obeying the truth which is the incorruptible seed of the Word of God, and giving you the Love of God for the brethren in your heart (Romans 5:5). I was telling you that the Holy Spirit teaches us all things (I John 2:20, 27) which is true but we are to "Search, the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me." Jesus words in John 5:39

As to the Words Faithfulness and Perfection: Seek ye out of the Book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and His Spirit it hath gathered them. Isaiah 34:16

Stormy you were telling me you are being purified seven times like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, but hear what God says about His own Word:

Psalms 12:6-7

6) The Words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnance of earth, purified seven times.

7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

So as silver is purified in the furnance seven times for purity, so is the Word of God is pure and eternal.

Psalms 138:2

I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnify thy word above thy name. The Holy Spirit teaches us all things though the Word. I apologize for any misunderstanding Stormy, and also for this long reply.

[stormy612]

I felt so wonderful! Wow! To think, I carry His whole Word and Truth inside of me! Its the same feeling I get when I remember that everything is already finished-I don't have to struggle, but rest...ahhh...peace. (thanks logos7 for putting into words what I feel and know but keep forgetting!) I have His word in me. It's a done deal...ahhh...peace.

Hey logos7,

I didn't mean for you to think I misunderstood you. When you reminded me that Jesus finished everything, I remembered suddenly that I didn't have to worry about the end-Jesus has it all taken care of. When He first showed me what that meant, I felt such a peace come over me. The revelation I had yesterday had that same peaceful feeling-until God's word countered the 'image'. The part of the 'revelation' that is true is the part about the world being able to read about God through the bible (God has made Himself known to the world). Yes, we (Christians) still need His written word, but we get the bonus of His rhema word, where as the world doesn't get that. I will never stop reading the bible and I don't encourage anyone else to either. God's word does make it abundantly clear that His scriptures are vital to us. I think the reason I was bombarded by verses (some of which you and others have quoted here) was so that I could begin to understand the difference between God's rhema word and His logos word. I've heard of it before but it was vague and ambiguous, but, with God teaching me on deception, He wanted me to see there is a difference between His two words. I didn't understand that until just a little bit ago, when I read something that helped me understand the difference more-it's in how I use His words. A Rhema word is personal therefore I am not to "infringe on another" with it, but since His rhema word and logos word confirm each other, I can share my new knowledge with His logos word, which is truth for all and all can understand it - His logos word is like a universal language, one we all can speak and understand. He's given me more understanding since last night thanks to you and everyone else. I'm still not entirely clear on the entire meaning, but I know for certain I'm to keep studying His written word ( I couldn't stop anyways!).

You did a very good thing for me reminding me that "it is finished". I'm sorry you thought you confused me! You didn't! I promise!

Edited June 16, 2010 by stormy612