Oil Crisis

[Snowdoove]

re: Oil Crisis

Our Government Knows this is going to happen. It has started already with crude oil $46.75 a barrel.

The Saudis have acknowledged the coming oil crisis. Publicly they say that their kingdom can meet the World's oil needs for decades to come.

Privatley they sing a different tune. They have a saying; My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane, His son will ride a camel.

Interessted in reading more go to: www.lifeaftertheoilcrash,net/Introduction.html.

You can do your own search by going to Google, and type in Oil Peak.

You are not going to like what you will read! :x:

Snowdoove

[senerhu]

Privatley they sing a different tune. They have a saying; My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane, His son will ride a camel.

this should read...His son will ride a solar powered car....

[Qun Mang]

I am a bit of a sci-fi fan so I hope to see a new power source akin to fusion in my lifetime. Just think though what an accident at a fusion plant may cause compared to a nuclear power plant

Realistically I think Christ will probably come back before either oil runs out completely or a big new power source is created. :il:

[senerhu]

I am a bit of a sci-fi fan so I hope to see a new power source akin to fusion in my lifetime. Just think though what an accident at a fusion plant may cause compared to a nuclear power plant

Realistically I think Christ will probably come back before either oil runs out completely or a big new power source is created. :il:

Times are changing aren't they...I also think we may be in the end times...

[other one]

Even if we do have a new power source developed in our life time I would remind you that oil is not just a power source. Look around you and you may will discover that most every thing around you that is not pure metal or wood comes from oil. All kinds of plastic's along with almost fertleizer coming from Natural Gas which is also peaked and getting more scarce, there is much more to the problem than a power source.

Right now very little of our electricity comes from oil, mostly from coal. I think Natural Gas is second and Neuk's are third.

It will be much more than electric cars and planes.

Sam

[Guest charlie]

Considering the topic and the course of this discussion something just came to my mind.

Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.

Provided that the verse is talking about a future event, could it be that when it does occur, the world will already have returned to horses and buggies? I've read books where the authors (who normally follow a literal interpretation any other time) insist that the verse uses "horses" because John didn't know how to describe modern vehicles any other way. Can you imagine having to use horses instead of cars, but still have nuclear weapons to wage "big" war with?

What are all your thoughts?

[on a side note]

In the history of the world our generation is the one with no "foot" in the past. If we do run out of oil an older person will be valuable to have around because they know "stuff", the details of how to survive without electricity and cars and modern conveniences. My parents went thru a blackout 11 yrs ago when a ice-storm hit in the south. They were tickled pink and were sad when the electricity came back on. Old people seem to be better "prepared" for the unexpected.

Oh yeah, thanks for that website Snowdove!

[senerhu]

Considering the topic and the course of this discussion something just came to my mind.

Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.

Provided that the verse is talking about a future event, could it be that when it does occur, the world will already have returned to horses and buggies? I've read books where the authors (who normally follow a literal interpretation any other time) insist that the verse uses "horses" because John didn't know how to describe modern vehicles any other way. Can you imagine having to use horses instead of cars, but still have nuclear weapons to wage "big" war with?

What are all your thoughts?

[on a side note]

In the history of the world our generation is the one with no "foot" in the past. If we do run out of oil an older person will be valuable to have around because they know "stuff", the details of how to survive without electricity and cars and modern conveniences. My parents went thru a blackout 11 yrs ago when a ice-storm hit in the south. They were tickled pink and were sad when the electricity came back on. Old people seem to be better "prepared" for the unexpected.

Oh yeah, thanks for that website Snowdove!

Interesting....

[alecia]

I doubt we will ever use horses again as our main form of transportation..

Electric, solar, inertia and other alternative powered vehicles are viable... but, theyre not being used yet for mainly two or three reasons.

1, for mass production, auto manufacturers would have to refit all the plants that they own.. expensive.

2, people dont like change, they like the cars they have, even with the gasoline and polution.

3, gas powered engines are currently more powerful. they have more horsepower, they can go faster, they can carry heavier loads. alternative engines that could be mass produced just dont have that kind of power in a practical vehicle (not a specialized race car), but they do work.

So.. we probably wont see much of a change over until there isnt a choice anymore.

[alecia]

We also have an ever growing resource, probably the largest resource in the world.

Garbage. Theres a lot that is being made out of trash these days, and there is still a lot more that can be made. You can recycle it and build things, and even make energy out of it, but the economic structure is already based around OTHER resources and forms of energy, and these people dont want that money to stop comming in, they want it to keep filling up thier pockets as long as it can.

Imagine telling an oil company that we will now use battery powered cars, and build things out of recycled garbage and aluminum.. and that we will be using recycled motor oil and lubricants to make plastic, new oil will only make up the difference in the plastic we cant recycle or make out of trash.... they would not be pleased, at all.

Edited August 16, 2004 by alecia

[Guest shadow2b]

-OIL-SHORTAGE?? AIN'T NO OIL-SHORTAGE!!NEVER HAS BEEN!!

-The trans-Alaska-Pipeline--Was guaranteed by Exxon-Mobil--& the rest of the OIL

cartel that built it stated before congress in 1968-there was/IS-enough OIL in that ONE-Well to supply the U.S.A. with cheap-almost pure oil that needs little refining--

for 200-years----only problem--NOT-one drop of north-slope-oil-has EVER been sold in the U.S.A.---It all; goes to japan--or asia--south-america--where-everr they can get the most$$$$ for it---

-Plus the Entire state of Michigan is sitting on so much oil they can't even Estimate HOW Much there is -----The USA is NOT dependent on FOREIGN OIL---This is the VERY-Reason-Congress allowed the Trans-Alaska pipeline to be built--TO remove OUR DEpendence on Foreign-OIL---YET here it is LESS-Than 200-years & WE are STILL oil-short-again----WHY--Easy--THE OIL-Company-CEOs LIE--JUST like they did in 1970---TO convince Congress that WE needed North-Slope-OIL-{Remember the OIL-Shortages in the early 70s??long-lines at gas-stations--sorry no Gas--Sold OUR-ALLOTMENT--OUT-OF-GAS--Remember??Then IN 1979--Congress Subpeoned-several-OIL-CEOs to testify at the OIL-hearings--seems like {Some disgruntled-oil-employees}--RATTED on the OIL-Companies--"THERE-WAS-NO-OIL-SHORTAGE--IT WAS ALL CONCOCTED--MANUFACTURED-BY THE OIL-COMPANIES--can you say-OOOOOOppppSSSSSSssss??-Cost Exxon-Mobil-several other oil.co.

-ONE-HUNDRED-MILLION-$$DOLLARS-in FINES---

-YET--Exxon-mobil-merged--they NOW Control 1/4-of the Worlds OIL--& In-----ONE Quarter of last-year-Exxon-Mobil-posted a ONE-BILLION-$$DOLLAR-PROFIT-That's in one 3-Three-month period they are posting profits IN RECORD NUMBERS$$$- -----GEEEEE-I---WONDER--WHY??-

-You may be asking how I know all this stuff??--WeLLLL, I worked in the Pipeline Construction Industry for 25-years 19 as a welder--& made several-hundred welds on the Trans-Alaska-Pipeline-& pretty well--ALL over the U.S. OF.A.---& a Few foreign countries too---thanky very mucho- :hug: