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The Fig tree has always been a symbol of Israel through out the old testament. Israel was destroyed in 70 AD, and became a nation again in 1948, which has some major prophetic meanings.

Hosea 9:10 "When I found Isra'el, it was like finding grapes in the desert; when I saw your ancestors, it was like seeing a fig tree's first figs in its first season. But as soon as they came to Ba'al-P'or, they dedicated themselves to something shameful; they became as loathsome as the thing they loved.

Jerimiah 24:55 "Here is what ADONAI the God of Isra'el says: 'I will regard the exiles from Y'hudah, whom I sent away from this place to the land of the Kasdim, as good, just as I do these good figs.

Now Yeshua told the scattering and re-gathering of the jews Through parables in Mark 11:12-24, and Luke 21.

First lets look at Mark.

Mark 11:12-14

12 The next day, as they came back from Beit-Anyah, he felt hungry. 13 Spotting in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to see if he could find anything on it. When he came up to it, he found nothing but leaves; for it wasn't fig season. 14 He said to it, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again!" And his talmidim heard what he said.

Here we see Yeshua walking by the fig tree, and it wasn't bearing fruit so told it may no one ever eat fruit from you again. Now the Fruit tree symbolizes Israel prophetically, so when Yeshua came to Israel it wasn't bearing fruit.

Mark 11:20-24

20 In the morning, as the talmidim passed by, they saw the fig tree withered all the way to its roots. 21 Kefa remembered and said to Yeshua, "Rabbi! Look! The fig tree that you cursed has dried up!" 22 He responded, "Have the kind of trust that comes from God! 23 Yes! I tell you that whoever does not doubt in his heart but trusts that what he says will happen can say to this mountain, `Go and throw yourself into the sea!' and it will be done for him. 24 Therefore, I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, trust that you are receiving it, and it will be yours.

Now in the morning, the disciples passed by the fig tree and it was withered all the way to it's roots. Israel wasn't bearing fruit when Yeshua came so he withered it up, so it may not bear fruit. Now if you look at verse 23, It says who does not doubt can say to this mountain, go throw yourself into the sea. Mountain always symbolizes a kingdom or a nation. The sea symbolizes the nations. So Yeshua said This Nation will be thrown into the Nations. giving us a parable of the scattering of the Jews.

Now lets dig into Luke 21.

Luke 21:29-34

29 Then he told them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, Indeed, all the trees. 30 As soon as they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves that summer is near. 31 In the same way, when you see these things taking place, you are to know that the Kingdom of God is near! 32 Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before it has all happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away. 34 "But keep watch on yourselves, or your hearts will become dulled by carousing, drunkenness and the worries of everyday living, and that Day will be sprung upon you suddenly like a trap

Here another parable of the fig tree "Israel" Yeshua said look at the fig tree, as soon as they sprout leaves you can see summer is near, in the same way when you see these things take place you are to know the kingdom of God is near. Also pay attention to how it mentions this people will not pass away before it all has happened. This is referring to the re-gathering of Israel and putting it as a sign in the end. The whole context of this chapter is the great tribulation and the day of the Lord, so we see Israel bearing leave's again "Becoming a nation" being a pivot point in prophecy even through Yeshua's parables.

Other references, Zechariah 10:9, 12-14, Amos 9:9, Ezekiel 22:15, Jeremiah 30:17

Luke 13:6-9 Then Yeshua gave this illustration: "A man had a fig tree planted in his vine yard, and he came looking for fruit but didn't find any. 7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, `Here, I've come looking for fruit on this fig tree for three years now without finding any. Cut it down -- why let it go on using up the soil?' 8 But he answered, `Sir, leave it alone one more year. I'll dig around it and put manure on it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, well and good; if not, you will have it cut down then.'"

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Hi Joshua-777, your thread reminds me of the tares (never forget the tares in: Matthew 13.38 ) that Christ teaches about. It's a sad thing that people don't know that they started in Genesis and will be with us right to the very end, leading to the judgment.

The good part is: God is Judge, and thanks for the thread.

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Very Enlightening :read::thumbsup:


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The Fig tree has always been a symbol of Israel through out the old testament. Israel was destroyed in 70 AD, and became a nation again in 1948, which has some major prophetic meanings.

Hosea 9:10 "When I found Isra'el, it was like finding grapes in the desert; when I saw your ancestors, it was like seeing a fig tree's first figs in its first season. But as soon as they came to Ba'al-P'or, they dedicated themselves to something shameful; they became as loathsome as the thing they loved.

Jerimiah 24:55 "Here is what ADONAI the God of Isra'el says: 'I will regard the exiles from Y'hudah, whom I sent away from this place to the land of the Kasdim, as good, just as I do these good figs.

Now Yeshua told the scattering and re-gathering of the jews Through parables in Mark 11:12-24, and Luke 21.

First lets look at Mark.

Mark 11:12-14

12 The next day, as they came back from Beit-Anyah, he felt hungry. 13 Spotting in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to see if he could find anything on it. When he came up to it, he found nothing but leaves; for it wasn't fig season. 14 He said to it, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again!" And his talmidim heard what he said.

Here we see Yeshua walking by the fig tree, and it wasn't bearing fruit so told it may no one ever eat fruit from you again. Now the Fruit tree symbolizes Israel prophetically, so when Yeshua came to Israel it wasn't bearing fruit.

Mark 11:20-24

20 In the morning, as the talmidim passed by, they saw the fig tree withered all the way to its roots. 21 Kefa remembered and said to Yeshua, "Rabbi! Look! The fig tree that you cursed has dried up!" 22 He responded, "Have the kind of trust that comes from God! 23 Yes! I tell you that whoever does not doubt in his heart but trusts that what he says will happen can say to this mountain, `Go and throw yourself into the sea!' and it will be done for him. 24 Therefore, I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, trust that you are receiving it, and it will be yours.

Now in the morning, the disciples passed by the fig tree and it was withered all the way to it's roots. Israel wasn't bearing fruit when Yeshua came so he withered it up, so it may not bear fruit. Now if you look at verse 23, It says who does not doubt can say to this mountain, go throw yourself into the sea. Mountain always symbolizes a kingdom or a nation. The sea symbolizes the nations. So Yeshua said This Nation will be thrown into the Nations. giving us a parable of the scattering of the Jews.

joshua777 that looks to me like too much symbolism is being used here. if it was symbolic of the Jewish people being scattered into other nations, why did jesus talk about having faith when asking for things in prayer? also if i follow that view point to its logical conclusion one could say that jesus gave us the authority thru prayer and faith to cause a nation of people to be scattered into other nations. :noidea:

also could you give me scriptural verses that show sea's and Mountains are symbolic of nations, thanks


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Joshua bro that was awesome, I always wondered why the fig tree was mentioned so many times in the Bible. I bought a fig fruit once to try it out because maybe it tastes good.. and it didn't! LOL atleast for me anyway... so yeah I love this message you shared with us, it makes much sense now. It doesn't answer all my questions but it did a good job answering most.

Now here is a question if you can answer it... Adam and Eve, why did they cover themselves with fig leaves...? I'm thinking perhaps because of a foretelling or prophecy of the law which was to come through Moses? And the covering representing the sacrificial offering which was a covering for our sins but not a true atonement for it? It seems very probable to me..


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Joshua bro that was awesome, I always wondered why the fig tree was mentioned so many times in the Bible. I bought a fig fruit once to try it out because maybe it tastes good.. and it didn't! LOL atleast for me anyway... so yeah I love this message you shared with us, it makes much sense now. It doesn't answer all my questions but it did a good job answering most.

Now here is a question if you can answer it... Adam and Eve, why did they cover themselves with fig leaves...? I'm thinking perhaps because of a foretelling or prophecy of the law which was to come through Moses? And the covering representing the sacrificial offering which was a covering for our sins but not a true atonement for it? It seems very probable to me..

hmm, I'll have to think about that. I didn't make the connection of the fig leaves and Adam and Eve. The covering might represent the letter of the law, or the covering of our sins which came through the sacrificial offerings.

Galatians 3:19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


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joshua777 that looks to me like too much symbolism is being used here. if it was symbolic of the Jewish people being scattered into other nations, why did jesus talk about having faith when asking for things in prayer? also if i follow that view point to its logical conclusion one could say that jesus gave us the authority thru prayer and faith to cause a nation of people to be scattered into other nations. :noidea:

also could you give me scriptural verses that show sea's and Mountains are symbolic of nations, thanks

I don't think it's too much symbolising, and it's not saying that you can move a nation if you trust, it is saying that God can. If you view this passage literally Throwing a mountain into the sea, Yes God can do that, we need that faith. If the verse is in context to the scattering of the Jews, which is something that did happen, then yes God did that. We can do nothing of our selves either way.

Mark 11:22 He responded, "Have the kind of trust that comes from God

After doing a search, I found that mountain is used in many, many scriptures to refer to Jerusalem, which makes the point of it's destruction, as for verses refering to the nations, there are a few but not as much as I thought.

Here are verses refering to Jerusalem being a mountain.

Isaiah 2:2

Now it shall come to pass in the latter days That the mountain of the LORD

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We have to remember that sometimes a tree is just a tree. There are times when the fig tree is used to symbolize Israel, but that does not mean that every time a fig tree occurs in Scripture that it is a symbol of Israel.

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We have to remember that sometimes a tree is just a tree. There are times when the fig tree is used to symbolize Israel, but that does not mean that every time a fig tree occurs in Scripture that it is a symbol of Israel.

I agree. Sometimes a figtree is just a figtree, for example

John 1:48 48 Nathanael said to Him,

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