Is Atheism a religion?

[MorningGlory]

Because, as I said, we are programmed to survive long enough to reproduce.

The best way to achieve that is to try to avoid other humans to kill us. Refuting murder is, ultimately, a selfish instinct

driven by our selfish genes.

Therefore, prohibiting murder, is functional to my goal to survive long enough to reproduce. If that was not the case, I would

probably not be here discussing this issue.

So.....you view yourself as just another animal then? What are you going to do once you achieve your life's goal?

I haven't reproduced yet. I wait until I am 90

You are probably going to make the Guiness book then.

[nebula]

So for you, reproduction is your goal in life, all you have to live for?

And you're OK with that?

But if reproduction is all there is, then why are so many looking for more?

Hope is a good thing and many people, not only the destitute ones, need hope.

There is nothing wrong in hoping for something more than our short life on this valley of tears, to live forever, to meet God, etc. etc.

Another thing is to coldly evaluate the probability that this hope is justified. Unfortunately, it is very low.

So why let people live who are unable to reproduce - say by injury, illness, or mental condition?

Why are people with children still looking for meaning and purpose to life, if reproduction is the meaning and purpose?

And why are you waiting to reproduce?

[nebula]

Vanity of vanities, a chasing after the wind.

Such a perspective on life only works for intellectual turds who are self-sufficient, well-fed, well-clothed, and well-sheltered.

Try living that perspective among the orphans in less developed nations living in the garbage dumps, the Sudanese and Congans raised amidst civil war and oppression, the Native Americans of poverty-stricken reservations (they have high suicide rates), the girl who grew up sexually molested by a family member, the boy continuously cut-down by his mother, . . . .

Would you tell them their reason for existing is the survival of our species, and the other stuff is nothing more than something nice to keep us going?

Or do you have the compassion to get out of your philosopher's chair and put love ahead of your wisdom and knowledge?

[MorningGlory]

So for you, reproduction is your goal in life, all you have to live for?

And you're OK with that?

But if reproduction is all there is, then why are so many looking for more?

Hope is a good thing and many people, not only the destitute ones, need hope.

There is nothing wrong in hoping for something more than our short life on this valley of tears, to live forever, to meet God, etc. etc.

Another thing is to coldly evaluate the probability that this hope is justified. Unfortunately, it is very low.

So why let people live who are unable to reproduce - say by injury, illness, or mental condition?

Why are people with children still looking for meaning and purpose to life, if reproduction is the meaning and purpose?

And why are you waiting to reproduce?

Reproduction is the main purpose of our genes, not necessarily for us. If we look for higher meanings and purposes in life

and find nice way to spend our time, if we enjoy life, friends, family, good company, the little pleasures in life,

then we reduce the chances of mass suicide and extinction. Therefore, these noble characteristics of ours are very

functional for the success of our species and our genes.

You are so completely blind, Attel. I am praying the Lord removes your blindfold and brings you to Him.

[Guest]

So for you, reproduction is your goal in life, all you have to live for? And you're OK with that?....

No. it is not my goal in life. But it is the goal of my genes. We evolved in such a way that we can cheat our genes, so to speak.

But who cares? They are unconscious, and as long as human population increases and they manage to spread further, they are the winners....

Sometimes It's Needful

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

To Check The Marker's Mark

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7

Or One Could End Up Wandering The Land Of Oz

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Romans 1:20-21

Until The End, You See

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Believe And Be Blessed Beloved

Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart. Psalms 119:2

Love, Joe

[Rick-Parker]

So for you, reproduction is your goal in life, all you have to live for?

And you're OK with that?

But if reproduction is all there is, then why are so many looking for more?

Hope is a good thing and many people, not only the destitute ones, need hope.

There is nothing wrong in hoping for something more than our short life on this valley of tears, to live forever, to meet God, etc. etc.

Another thing is to coldly evaluate the probability that this hope is justified. Unfortunately, it is very low.

So why let people live who are unable to reproduce - say by injury, illness, or mental condition?

Why are people with children still looking for meaning and purpose to life, if reproduction is the meaning and purpose?

And why are you waiting to reproduce?

Reproduction is the main purpose of our genes, not necessarily for us. If we look for higher meanings and purposes in life

and find nice way to spend our time, if we enjoy life, friends, family, good company, the little pleasures in life,

then we reduce the chances of mass suicide and extinction. Therefore, these noble characteristics of ours are very

functional for the success of our species and our genes.

You call what has happened to the human condition, what man has done to man and the planet, noble and successful? Man, are you lost!

[808state]

Vanity of vanities, a chasing after the wind.

Such a perspective on life only works for intellectual turds who are self-sufficient, well-fed, well-clothed, and well-sheltered.

Try living that perspective among the orphans in less developed nations living in the garbage dumps, the Sudanese and Congans raised amidst civil war and oppression, the Native Americans of poverty-stricken reservations (they have high suicide rates), the girl who grew up sexually molested by a family member, the boy continuously cut-down by his mother, . . . .

Would you tell them their reason for existing is the survival of our species, and the other stuff is nothing more than something nice to keep us going?

Or do you have the compassion to get out of your philosopher's chair and put love ahead of your wisdom and knowledge?

I find this response really interesting. I've had close family members who were dying, and their faith was what helped get them through. And I wouldn't have had it any other way. I do get angry with certain Atheists who seem pretty driven to take that away from people when they need it.

That said, different people find different paths in life and reasons for living. Different things that they as individuals feel connected to. For some people that may be religion, for others it may be music or family or simply life itself. It's really up to the individual. The idea that religion is needed by all people who are going through rough times is just not true. Some people simply find another way of dealing with their problems that doesn't involve religion. I've also seen Atheists approach death as well as other hardships, and they had other things to get through that obviously didn't involve religion.

[~Rob]

Vanity of vanities, a chasing after the wind.

Such a perspective on life only works for intellectual turds who are self-sufficient, well-fed, well-clothed, and well-sheltered.

Try living that perspective among the orphans in less developed nations living in the garbage dumps, the Sudanese and Congans raised amidst civil war and oppression, the Native Americans of poverty-stricken reservations (they have high suicide rates), the girl who grew up sexually molested by a family member, the boy continuously cut-down by his mother, . . . .

Would you tell them their reason for existing is the survival of our species, and the other stuff is nothing more than something nice to keep us going?

Or do you have the compassion to get out of your philosopher's chair and put love ahead of your wisdom and knowledge?

I find this response really interesting. I've had close family members who were dying, and their faith was what helped get them through. And I wouldn't have had it any other way. I do get angry with certain Atheists who seem pretty driven to take that away from people when they need it.

That said, different people find different paths in life and reasons for living. Different things that they as individuals feel connected to. For some people that may be religion, for others it may be music or family or simply life itself. It's really up to the individual. The idea that religion is needed by all people who are going through rough times is just not true. Some people simply find another way of dealing with their problems that doesn't involve religion. I've also seen Atheists approach death as well as other hardships, and they had other things to get through that obviously didn't involve religion.

It might sound heartless to say it like this but Just because something is comforting does not make it correct. Santa Claus for example is a comforting Lie for children .....

I don't say this because im trying to take comfort away from anyone Just simply trying to point out as i said above. "Just because it makes you feel good, Does not mean its the truth ...... and sooner or later even innocent white lies will hurt"

[MorningGlory]

It might sound heartless to say it like this but Just because something is comforting does not make it correct. Santa Claus for example is a comforting Lie for children .....

I don't say this because im trying to take comfort away from anyone Just simply trying to point out as i said above. "Just because it makes you feel good, Does not mean its the truth ...... and sooner or later even innocent white lies will hurt"

Are you saying the Lord is a 'white lie'?

[nebula]

Are you saying the Lord is a 'white lie'?

He's an atheist, you know. Can't really expect him to state otherwise.