How to know if your truly saved

[Guest man]

Hello man

You said..........

[Guest shiloh357]

Just a reminder of what is being discussed here.

If you have the courage to read this thread, and all he Scripture its filled with, one of two things will happen.

➀ The Lord will either give you an assurance of your salvation:

➁ Or, the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin, righteousness and judgement:(Your sin, His righteousness and your judgement to come.)

Yes and you are completely ignoring that he said it was the Holy Spirit that will convict of sin. He did not say just reading this thread would do accomplish that.

And judging from your responses, he's right.

If you have the courage to read this thread, and all he Scripture its filled with, one of two things will happen.

➀ The Lord will either give you an assurance of your salvation:

➁ Or, the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin, righteousness and judgement:

(Your sin, His righteousness and your judgement to come.)

You know, your argumentative attitude is really making this out to be alot worst than it actually is.

YOU have been arguing consistently against Bigape from your first post on this thread. Your hypocrisy is duly noted.

He said that as a result of reading this thread and the Word that the HOLY SPIRIT will convict. He did not say that only reading this thread or the Bible would bring conviction.

I am pointing out that you have completely misrespresented his points. You have done nothing but accuse him of what he did not mean to say. it is your knee-jerk reactionism to his posts that is the problem.

[Guest man]

He said that as a result of reading this thread and the Word that the HOLY SPIRIT will convict. He did not say that only reading this thread or the Bible would bring conviction.

Reading comprehension................it comes in handy.

You have done nothing but accuse him of what he did not mean to say.

You're right, I was addressing what he actually said.

[Guest shiloh357]

Reading comprehension................it comes in handy.

Sure does. Unfortunately, you seem unwilling or unable to employ it. Here are His exact words:

bigape, on 22 November 2010 - 12:17 AM, said:

If you have the courage to read this thread, and all he Scripture its filled with, one of two things will happen.

➀ The Lord will either give you an assurance of your salvation:

➁ Or, the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin, righteousness and judgement:

He clearly stated that when reading the Bible it is the Holy Spirit who will convict, not the act of reading itself.

You're right, I was addressing what he actually said.

No, you completely ignored what he said and are hell bent on assigning motives and values to his post that he did not intend. You have made a bunch of false accusations based on your misrepresentation of his words and the intent of his posts. This just continues to prove that you cannot be trusted in a debate.

The truth is that when you read the Bible, the Holy Spirit WILL convict you of sin. You will do one of two things, either reject it or repent. So far all you have done is get mad at him for having the courage to tell the truth. That's the effect that convinction has on a person. if you weren't under conviction, you would not fight it so hard.

[Guest man]

So far all you have done is get mad at him for having the courage to tell the truth.

I don't get mad. At least not on a message board. I have no reason too.

You on the other hand.....

That's the effect that convinction has on a person. if you weren't under conviction, you would not fight it so hard.

Thank you, but I wouldn't exactly call it fighting.

[Guest shiloh357]

shiloh357, on 23 November 2010 - 11:23 PM, said:

So far all you have done is get mad at him for having the courage to tell the truth.

I don't get mad. At least not on a message board. I have no reason too.

You on the other hand.....

I am not mad either. Just explaining why you are the problem on this thread and not bigape.

Thank you, but I wouldn't exactly call it fighting.

Resisting, rejecting, whatever. You are under conviction and it is pretty obvious because nothing bigape has said should be offensive or objectionable to a Christian.

[Fez]

bigape, on 22 November 2010 - 12:17 AM, said:

If you have the courage to read this thread, and all he Scripture it

[enoob57]

bigape, on 22 November 2010 - 12:17 AM, said:

If you have the courage to read this thread, and all he Scripture it's filled with, one of two things will happen.

➀ The Lord will either give you an assurance of your salvation:

➁ Or, the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin, righteousness and judgement:

He clearly stated that when reading the Bible it is the Holy Spirit who will convict, not the act of reading itself.

To be accurate, and not to enter the handbag slinging match, what bigape actually said was that by reading the thread, and the scripture he posted, one would get an assurance of salvation from the Lord, and or be convicted by the Holy Spirit.

The difference being that this is partly the word of man (in that they are bigapes words in the thread), and partly scripture. While I have no problem with this, it is usually just from scripture and or prayer that one hears the Holy Spirit.

While the words of man are useful at times to direct one toward deeper thought (iron does sharpen iron), I prefer, and think it is safer to concentrate on scripture.

and that I believe is that.....

[Guest]

.... (iron does sharpen iron), I prefer, and think it is safer to concentrate on scripture.....

The Master

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Ephesians 6:17

And His Weapon

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12

Has The World Ever Seen Such A Thing

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:14-19

[bigape]

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