Why Do atheists Attack Christianity?

[Believer112]

This is not a YEC site but the information here is interesting.

http://s8int.com/dna1.html

[nebula]

Yeah, so what should you be seeking -

Truth or Love?

Why not both?

"[Love] does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail." - 1 Corinthians 13:6

In Truth Love rejoices, they complement each other. If one must love as they turn a blind eye to truth, is it really Love?

OK, you do know that in this sentence the second thought plays off of the first thought, correct?

So when you see the word "truth" there, you should see it as a contrast to "injustice and unrighteousness," correct?

So why would you take "truth" here to mean things like the scientific explanation for how the Earth came to be?

[nChrist]

I'm not sure who you have discussions with but anyone who graduated high school knows this stuff.....and a few who aren't even IN high school yet. Yes, D-9, a person can fully understand an idea or theory and still reject it.

I guess that's why I've encountered those misconceptions and more here on Worthy and on many other sites as well. I'm not trying to be mean, but I think that is how a large portion of evolutionists feel, and IMHO, rightly so.

I personally could care less about what evolutionists think. Contrary to their beliefs, those who reject the theory of evolution are just as educated as those who embrace it. If you want to think that you evolved from monkeys, that's fine for you. Personally, I think that would display your ignorance, not your intelligence. I'll take God's Word in Genesis over some half-baked theory that's falling apart any day, and I would consider that to be a matter of common sense. When I think about the theory of evolution, I think about the series of hoaxes and the attempted deception - falsely in the name of science. The theory of evolution is hanging by a thread, and what's left of it is a mess. It's probably survived mainly for the purpose of certain so-called scientists to save face. Otherwise, the theory of evolution is like a cheap carnival act. There is much more common sense involved in believing God's Account of Creation.

[Guest]

KING OF KINGS

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Proverbs 30:4

AND LORD OF LORDS

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isaiah 55:11

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I'm not sure who you have discussions with but anyone who graduated high school knows this stuff.....and a few who aren't even IN high school yet. Yes, D-9, a person can fully understand an idea or theory and still reject it....

I guess that's why I've encountered those misconceptions and more here on Worthy and on many other sites as well. I'm not trying to be mean, but I think that is how a large portion of evolutionists feel, and IMHO, rightly so....

Misconceptions

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? Isaiah 29:16

And Truth

By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Hebrews 11:7

Of Course You Will Find Them On Worthy

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15

For The Unbeliever Is Invited To Come And To Learn Of The Lordship Of Jesus

And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? Mark 4:37-40

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7

And About His Death To Cleanse Us From Our Odorous Sins

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Revelation 1:5

And About His Resurrection From The Grave

And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. Mark 16:6

And About His Ascension

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:1-3

And Imminent Return

Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Revelation 22:7

To Zion Town

The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Zechariah 12:1-3

And Neither Faux Science

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 1 Timothy 6:20

Nor Evolutionary Philosophy/Animism

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians 2:8

Can Give One Knowledge Of The Fall Of Mankind

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Genesis 3:4-6

Nor Of The Redemption Of Jesus

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

Nor Of The Coming Wrath

Thine hand shall find out all thine enemies: thy right hand shall find out those that hate thee. Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Psalms 21:8-9

Misconceptions?

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Psalms 14:1-3

Oh Yeah!

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Humble Yourself

Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. James 4:10

And Be Blessed Beloved

Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them Hebrews 7:25

Love. Joe

[nebula]

My original question has yet to be answered; Does God value sincerity in the search for truth? Even when that genuine search for the truth doesn't lead to true Christianity or even atheism? Or only when it leads to the correct type of Christianity?

Would you please provide the Scripture to support your argument that the Lord places such a high value on seeking "truth"?

I can show you plenty of verses that state we need to seek the Lord.

(And before you refer to Jesus saying, "I am the ... truth ...," please justify that this is His number one, most highly values, most encompassing trait, the goal above all goals in knowing Him.

[Gerioke]

OK, you do know that in this sentence the second thought plays off of the first thought, correct?

So when you see the word "truth" there, you should see it as a contrast to "injustice and unrighteousness," correct?

So why would you take "truth" here to mean things like the scientific explanation for how the Earth came to be?

Yes, it is a misrepresentation. I was tired when I wrote that.

My original question has yet to be answered; Does God value sincerity in the search for truth? Even when that genuine search for the truth doesn't lead to true Christianity or even atheism? Or only when it leads to the correct type of Christianity?

I doubt God would value your sincerity much if you were sincerely denying Him while you are courting others.

[nChrist]

OK, you do know that in this sentence the second thought plays off of the first thought, correct?

So when you see the word "truth" there, you should see it as a contrast to "injustice and unrighteousness," correct?

So why would you take "truth" here to mean things like the scientific explanation for how the Earth came to be?

Yes, it is a misrepresentation. I was tired when I wrote that.

My original question has yet to be answered; Does God value sincerity in the search for truth? Even when that genuine search for the truth doesn't lead to true Christianity or even atheism? Or only when it leads to the correct type of Christianity?

NO, Almighty God - The Creator does not appreciate rejection of any kind, nor does He appreciate anyone having a god (little "g") over Him. He hates the false gods and religions. He isn't impressed with your reasons for rejecting Him, nor does He appreciate any thought against Him. After all, He is the All-Sovereign Creator, and He deserves acceptance, love, and obedience. All who reject Him and physically die in their sins without Him will be condemned to the eternal fires of hell. Does this sound like He appreciates any type of rejection?

[nChrist]

I personally could care less about what evolutionists think. Contrary to their beliefs, those who reject the theory of evolution are just as educated as those who embrace it.

The data suggests otherwise: gallup poll

Those who accept evolution by education level

High School or less: 21%

Some College: 41%

College Graduate: 53%

Postgraduate: 71%

If you want to think that you evolved from monkeys, that's fine for you. Personally, I think that would display your ignorance, not your intelligence. I'll take God's Word in Genesis over some half-baked theory that's falling apart any day, and I would consider that to be a matter of common sense. When I think about the theory of evolution, I think about the series of hoaxes and the attempted deception - falsely in the name of science. The theory of evolution is hanging by a thread, and what's left of it is a mess. It's probably survived mainly for the purpose of certain so-called scientists to save face. Otherwise, the theory of evolution is like a cheap carnival act. There is much more common sense involved in believing God's Account of Creation.

Well, I can tell you that the theory of evolution is one of the strongest supported theories in science, and there is no indication (in academia) that evolution will be overhauled and/or found false.

From Todd Wood, PhD in biochemistry and YEC,

"Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well." - Source

And,

"Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. Please don't be duped into thinking that somehow evolution itself is a failure. Please don't idolize your own ability to reason. Faith is enough. If God said it, that should settle it. Maybe that's not enough for your scoffing professor or your non-Christian friends, but it should be enough for you." - source

I'm not impressed at all. Like I said, if you want to think that you evolved from a monkey, that's fine for you. I reject that idea as ridiculous. I'll take God's Word about His Creation. I have ZERO doubt or question in my mind about this at all.

[nebula]

D-9, God wants you to seek Him.

Really, there is no Scriptural justification for "seeking the truth." The Lord does not place the value on "the truth" that you do.

If Jesus is the truth, as He said, than seeking out any other truth is an idol.

[nChrist]

NO, Almighty God - The Creator does not appreciate rejection of any kind, nor does He appreciate anyone having a god (little "g") over Him. He hates the false gods and religions. He isn't impressed with your reasons for rejecting Him, nor does He appreciate any thought against Him. After all, He is the All-Sovereign Creator, and He deserves acceptance, love, and obedience. All who reject Him and physically die in their sins without Him will be condemned to the eternal fires of hell. Does this sound like He appreciates any type of rejection?

So God doesn't appreciate rejection, I understand that. But does God appreciate seeking the truth, even when that genuine search for the truth leads one to not accept true Christianity?

An analogy may be like a little kid playing with a football inside the house and broke a lamp or expensive vase, then owned up to what he did and tried to fix it. Obviously the parents would be angry at the kid for playing with the football inside the house instead of outside (analogous to not finding true Christianity), but would the parents also be happy and appreciate that the kid took responsibility for what he did and do what needs to be done to fix it and make it right (analogous to earnestly seeking the truth)? I know it's not the best example, I'm just trying to show that you can feel two different emotions about the same event/person that are quite different from each other.

Even though God wouldn't be happy about someone not finding the whole truth or even being completely wrong, would he also appreciate the fact that the person sought the truth to the best of their abilities, or would he simply not care or worse?

Worse if you have been given the Truth and rejected it. It really boils down to one of two conditions: lost or saved - rejection or acceptance. No, there is no credit given for seeking the Truth, rather what you do with that Truth when it is given to you. Jesus Christ died on the cross and took your punishment in His own Holy Body. He arose from the dead on the third day and is our Living Lord and Saviour. One can't deserve or earn Salvation. It's a Gift from God that not one of us deserves. Jesus Christ finished the work of Salvation perfectly on the Cross, and the rest is up to us. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Faith is our part. I suggest that you read and carefully study the beautiful book of John and then Romans 10. There you will find the Absolute Truth that will set you free from the bondage of sin and death.