Bold Believer Posted February 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 The American media constantly throws out the term 'democracy', in reference to the US and other 'friendly' nations. Many times, the term is attached to 'American' or 'our'. But is America a democracy? Has American ever been a democracy? The answer is a resounding "NO!" When asked outside of Independence Hall, "What kind of government have you given us?" Benjamin Franklin's answer was: A Republic, if you can keep it. Notice. A republic. Not a democracy, a republic. America is a Constitutional Representative REPUBLIC. We are not, NOR HAVE WE EVER BEEN, a democracy. Don't be taken in by the lies. Absolutely correct, Believer. I think that most people simply just don't know the difference. They reason they don't know is because what I'm talking about. Kids are taught in school that we're a 'democracy'. The media, even the so-called conservative media, says we're a 'democracy'. This is called brain-washing. It was Adolph Hitler who said that if one continued to repeat a lie over and over, soon, it would be believed. Brain-washing is not always the province of torturers in black hoods. The most effective brain-washing is often done by those with the softest voices and the gentlest attitudes. Above all, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. Get them out of the government schools and limit/supervise their TV watching. It's the children that the enemy is after most. I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the educational system and the media are conspiring to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic? If so, what would be the logic behind such a thing? Democracy: Invloves the government ruling and making laws for the "greater good" of all people, they may abolish personal rights in doing so. Democracy is government by and for the people. They may or may not be republics--that is, government limited by constitution or charter. The tricky part of "democracy" is defining "the people" and then deciding what counts as "by the people" and what counts as "for the people." In a sense, that could be considered the content of democratic practice. Republic: Involves the government using and abiding by the constitution heavily. Personal rights are respected and cannot be taken away. This helps to avoid tyranny and mobocracy (the majority makes laws and governs by passion, prejudice, or impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences). Republics are the common and "standard" type of governments found today, not democracies, despite what many people (who may not know the definition of either) think. Just as democracies may or may not be republics, republics may or may not be democracies. The difference between Democracy and Republic: Democracy and Republic are two forms of government which are distinguished by their treatment of the Minority, and the Individual, by the Majority. In a Democracy, the Majority has unlimited power over the Minority. This system of government does not provide a legal safeguard of the rights of the Individual and the Minority. It has been referred to as "Majority over Man". In a Republic, the Majority is Limited and constrained by a written Constitution which protects the rights of the Individual and the Minority. The purpose of a Republic form of government is to control the Majority and to protect the God-given, inalienable rights and liberty of the Individual. The United States of America is founded as a Republic under the Constitution. (From Answers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2011 The difference between Democracy and Republic: Democracy and Republic are two forms of government which are distinguished by their treatment of the Minority, and the Individual, by the Majority. In a Democracy, the Majority has unlimited power over the Minority. This system of government does not provide a legal safeguard of the rights of the Individual and the Minority. It has been referred to as "Majority over Man". In a Republic, the Majority is Limited and constrained by a written Constitution which protects the rights of the Individual and the Minority. The purpose of a Republic form of government is to control the Majority and to protect the God-given, inalienable rights and liberty of the Individual. The United States of America is founded as a Republic under the Constitution. (From Answers.com) Right; I know that but my question was do you think there is a conspiracy to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic and, if so, what is the end goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted February 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 The difference between Democracy and Republic: Democracy and Republic are two forms of government which are distinguished by their treatment of the Minority, and the Individual, by the Majority. In a Democracy, the Majority has unlimited power over the Minority. This system of government does not provide a legal safeguard of the rights of the Individual and the Minority. It has been referred to as "Majority over Man". In a Republic, the Majority is Limited and constrained by a written Constitution which protects the rights of the Individual and the Minority. The purpose of a Republic form of government is to control the Majority and to protect the God-given, inalienable rights and liberty of the Individual. The United States of America is founded as a Republic under the Constitution. (From Answers.com) Right; I know that but my question was do you think there is a conspiracy to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic and, if so, what is the end goal? I am utterly convinced that there is a conspiracy to teach just that. What such a plan does is undermine the truth about the American Republic and its underlying principles and replace them with a humanist/Magogist democracy. We already see government doing what IT (and those IN it) thinks is 'for the good of the people'. Anti-smoking laws. Banning of certain foods. Limitations on speech. The slow demonization of firearms and their eventual eradication. And that constant mantra: America is a democracy. You will not hear in the American media (even the conservative media) the word Republic. It's now always democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 4, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2011 The difference between Democracy and Republic: Democracy and Republic are two forms of government which are distinguished by their treatment of the Minority, and the Individual, by the Majority. In a Democracy, the Majority has unlimited power over the Minority. This system of government does not provide a legal safeguard of the rights of the Individual and the Minority. It has been referred to as "Majority over Man". In a Republic, the Majority is Limited and constrained by a written Constitution which protects the rights of the Individual and the Minority. The purpose of a Republic form of government is to control the Majority and to protect the God-given, inalienable rights and liberty of the Individual. The United States of America is founded as a Republic under the Constitution. (From Answers.com) Right; I know that but my question was do you think there is a conspiracy to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic and, if so, what is the end goal? I am utterly convinced that there is a conspiracy to teach just that. What such a plan does is undermine the truth about the American Republic and its underlying principles and replace them with a humanist/Magogist democracy. We already see government doing what IT (and those IN it) thinks is 'for the good of the people'. Anti-smoking laws. Banning of certain foods. Limitations on speech. The slow demonization of firearms and their eventual eradication. And that constant mantra: America is a democracy. You will not hear in the American media (even the conservative media) the word Republic. It's now always democracy. I still think it's ignorance of the differences between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted February 8, 2011 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 901 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 538 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2011 I wonder if perhaps there is sometimes a difference between the meaning of one or both terms in non-usa english compared to usa english? For example the term 'democracy' is often used for both representative democracies as well as direct democracy. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/democracy Also a definition of the term 'republic' http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/republic Are one or both these definitions slightly different than the definitions in usa english? Just a thought. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted February 8, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.86 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted February 8, 2011 The American media constantly throws out the term 'democracy', in reference to the US and other 'friendly' nations. Many times, the term is attached to 'American' or 'our'. But is America a democracy? Has American ever been a democracy? The answer is a resounding "NO!" When asked outside of Independence Hall, "What kind of government have you given us?" Benjamin Franklin's answer was: A Republic, if you can keep it. Notice. A republic. Not a democracy, a republic. America is a Constitutional Representative REPUBLIC. We are not, NOR HAVE WE EVER BEEN, a democracy. Don't be taken in by the lies. Absolutely correct, Believer. I think that most people simply just don't know the difference. They reason they don't know is because what I'm talking about. Kids are taught in school that we're a 'democracy'. The media, even the so-called conservative media, says we're a 'democracy'. This is called brain-washing. It was Adolph Hitler who said that if one continued to repeat a lie over and over, soon, it would be believed. Brain-washing is not always the province of torturers in black hoods. The most effective brain-washing is often done by those with the softest voices and the gentlest attitudes. Above all, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. Get them out of the government schools and limit/supervise their TV watching. It's the children that the enemy is after most. I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the educational system and the media are conspiring to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic? If so, what would be the logic behind such a thing? Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 The American media constantly throws out the term 'democracy', in reference to the US and other 'friendly' nations. Many times, the term is attached to 'American' or 'our'. But is America a democracy? Has American ever been a democracy? The answer is a resounding "NO!" When asked outside of Independence Hall, "What kind of government have you given us?" Benjamin Franklin's answer was: A Republic, if you can keep it. Notice. A republic. Not a democracy, a republic. America is a Constitutional Representative REPUBLIC. We are not, NOR HAVE WE EVER BEEN, a democracy. Don't be taken in by the lies. Absolutely correct, Believer. I think that most people simply just don't know the difference. They reason they don't know is because what I'm talking about. Kids are taught in school that we're a 'democracy'. The media, even the so-called conservative media, says we're a 'democracy'. This is called brain-washing. It was Adolph Hitler who said that if one continued to repeat a lie over and over, soon, it would be believed. Brain-washing is not always the province of torturers in black hoods. The most effective brain-washing is often done by those with the softest voices and the gentlest attitudes. Above all, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. Get them out of the government schools and limit/supervise their TV watching. It's the children that the enemy is after most. I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the educational system and the media are conspiring to teach that we are a democracy rather than a republic? If so, what would be the logic behind such a thing? Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism. The teacher's unions and the media are conspiring to make our children amoral? Why do they all want socialism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism. Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary! Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism. Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary! Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future. Thank you amor..... that just made my day. I do hope and pray that you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism. Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary! Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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