What Luke 13:6-9 is saying ??

[dan p]

Hi to all , and Luke 13:6-9 is very interesting , and this is how I interpret it .

Verse 6 , And He ( Jesus ) spake this parable ; A certain man ( God the Father ) had a Fig Tree ( which is Israel ) planted in His vineyard and He came and sought fruit thereon , and found none . in other words , Israel was not producing fruit , and that is why John the Baptist was sent in the get all ro Repent and be water baptize and be cleansed .

Verse 7 , Then said He to the Dresser ( speaking to Jesus ) of His vineyard , Behold , these three Years ( 3 years of Jesus ministry ) I come seeking fruit on this Fig Tree , and find none , CUT IT DOWN ; why let it take up space ,

Verse 8 , Then Jesus answering said unto the Father , Lord , let it alone this YEAR ALSO , till I shall Dig around and Fertilize it , meaning Israel .

Verse 9 , And if it bear Fruit , well , and IF not , then after that Thou shall cut it DOWN .

Before the conclusion of the fourth year , they crucify there Messiah and it effectually kills the seting up Israel's Kingdom .

Israel will be set aside and that happens at Acts 28:28 and has been set aside for over 2000 years , UNTIL the " fulness of the Gentiles come in " in Rom 11:25 .

When the Assembly is raptured , then God will again be dealing with Israel again , dan p

[Fez]

Dan, a couple of questions for clarification of your explanation?

Why would Jesus, in this instance only, refer to His father, our almighty God, as "a certain man"? This He would not have done.

Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, 'After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.'

Joh 1:31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel."

Joh 1:32 And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him.

Joh 1:33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.'

Where does scripture say John was sent to get all to repent?

Joh 1:23 He said, "I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way of the Lord,' as the prophet Isaiah said."

Blessings

[nebula]

Verse 7 , Then said He to the Dresser ( speaking to Jesus ) of His vineyard , Behold , these three Years ( 3 years of Jesus ministry ) I come seeking fruit on this Fig Tree , and find none , CUT IT DOWN ; why let it take up space ,

Verse 8 , Then Jesus answering said unto the Father , Lord , let it alone this YEAR ALSO , till I shall Dig around and Fertilize it , meaning Israel .

Verse 9 , And if it bear Fruit , well , and IF not , then after that Thou shall cut it DOWN .

Before the conclusion of the fourth year , they crucify there Messiah and it effectually kills the seting up Israel's Kingdom .

If the High Priest did not sanction Jesus' death, then He could not have been the Sacrificial Lamb.

Setting up Israel's Kingdom at this time was never the plan. The plan was for the Son of God to be revealed as Messiah Ben Joseph - the Suffering Servant. in the future He will be revealed as Messiah Ben David - the Conquering King.

As for Israel - the original followers of Jesus were of Israel, so how can you say there was no fruit?

[Joshua-777]

Verse 7 , Then said He to the Dresser ( speaking to Jesus ) of His vineyard , Behold , these three Years ( 3 years of Jesus ministry ) I come seeking fruit on this Fig Tree , and find none , CUT IT DOWN ; why let it take up space ,

Verse 8 , Then Jesus answering said unto the Father , Lord , let it alone this YEAR ALSO , till I shall Dig around and Fertilize it , meaning Israel .

Verse 9 , And if it bear Fruit , well , and IF not , then after that Thou shall cut it DOWN .

Before the conclusion of the fourth year , they crucify there Messiah and it effectually kills the seting up Israel's Kingdom .

If the High Priest did not sanction Jesus' death, then He could not have been the Sacrificial Lamb.

Setting up Israel's Kingdom at this time was never the plan. The plan was for the Son of God to be revealed as Messiah Ben Joseph - the Suffering Servant. in the future He will be revealed as Messiah Ben David - the Conquering King.

As for Israel - the original followers of Jesus were of Israel, so how can you say there was no fruit?

Luke 19:41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying,

[dan p]

Dan, a couple of questions for clarification of your explanation?

Why would Jesus, in this instance only, refer to His father, our almighty God, as "a certain man"? This He would not have done.

Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, 'After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.'

Joh 1:31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel."

Joh 1:32 And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him.

Joh 1:33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.'

Where does scripture say John was sent to get all to repent?

Joh 1:23 He said, "I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way of the Lord,' as the prophet Isaiah said."

Blessings

Hi Fez , and in verse 6 , the word " man " was added to the text , that is true .

But in verse 8 , Jesus calls Him LORD/KURIOS/JEHOVAH .

In John 1:26-31 , John was sent so that Jesus would be made MANIFEST / KNOWN to Israel and Not to Gentiles .

Matt 3:11 says that John was sent to baptize with water unto Repentance , and also Acts 19:4 reveals that same thing .

[dan p]

[quote name='Joshua-777'

As for Israel - the original followers of Jesus were of Israel, so how can you say there was no fruit?

[savedgeezer]

I think verse 5 says it all

Luk 13:5-9 CJB No, I tell you. Rather, unless you turn from your sins, you will all die similarly." (6) Then Yeshua gave this illustration:

"A man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came looking for fruit but didn't find any. (7) So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'Here, I've come looking for fruit on this fig tree for three years now without finding any. Cut it down

[Matthitjah]

As for Israel - the original followers of Jesus were of Israel, so how can you say there was no fruit?

Hi Joshua-777 , and in Matt 3:7 , John tells the Pharisees and Sadducces and in verse 8 , to bring FRUIT meet for Repentance and it seem that the leadership of Israel did not qualify for Baptism .

And verses in Matt 7:15 - 23 shows what kind on FRUIT qualify and verse 21 says " he that doeth the WILL of the Father which is in heaven .

Fruit meet for repentance is this;

Ga 5:22

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ga 5:23

Meekness, self-control: against such there is no law.

Because this is what God required of you O' man;

Jas 1:27

Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Blessed are they;

Ps 119:1

[Guest]

As for Israel - the original followers of Jesus were of Israel, so how can you say there was no fruit?

Hi Joshua-777 , and in Matt 3:7 , John tells the Pharisees and Sadducces and in verse 8 , to bring FRUIT meet for Repentance and it seem that the leadership of Israel did not qualify for Baptism.

And verses in Matt 7:15 - 23 shows what kind on FRUIT qualify and verse 21 says " he that doeth the WILL of the Father which is in heaven.

Fruit meet for repentance is this;

Ga 5:22

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ga 5:23

Meekness, self-control: against such there is no law.

Because this is what God required of you O' man;

Jas 1:27

Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Blessed are they;

Ps 119:1

¶ Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Ps 119:2

Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.

That is what is meant by Biblical Holiness.

Peace,

Dave

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Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth.

O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.

And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise.

Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD. 1 Chronicles 16:30:36

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The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.

Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion. Joel 3:16-21

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