Leonard Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Paul says IT IS OUR JOB TO JUDGE THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS! Sorry, but T.D. Jakes is WAY out of line here, and Franklin Graham is DOING A GOOD JOB. The Grotesquely Evil One in the office of the Presidency (emoch shemoh), has made our nation more vile than ever with his anti-Israel pronouncements. He IS America's "Abomination of Desolation." After his declarations of today, I see only greater and greater divine judgments against this nation. May the Lord save him, or remove him from office quickly, before he does even more harm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 19, 2011 Paul says IT IS OUR JOB TO JUDGE THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS! Sorry, but T.D. Jakes is WAY out of line here, and Franklin Graham is DOING A GOOD JOB. The Grotesquely Evil One in the office of the Presidency (emoch shemoh), has made our nation more vile than ever with his anti-Israel pronouncements. He IS America's "Abomination of Desolation." After his declarations of today, I see only greater and greater divine judgments against this nation. May the Lord save him, or remove him from office quickly, before he does even more harm! I'm sure there will be a thread about what was said, but as I was getting ready for work, I missed it. Can you point to a few of his statements? I really wanted to hear what he had to say, which road of destruction he was leading us down this time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodetoad Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/14/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/06/1953 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I think the president is an atheist. I think he went to Rev. Wright's church for political reasons, claims to be a Christian for political reasons. He relates to Islam due to his past, but I don't think he's a Muslim. I think his faith is in himself and his agenda. No, I can't prove it, no quotes or evidence. Just what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted May 19, 2011 The Grotesquely Evil One in the office of the Presidency (emoch shemoh), has made our nation more vile than ever with his anti-Israel pronouncements. He IS America's "Abomination of Desolation." After his declarations of today, I see only greater and greater divine judgments against this nation. I'm sure there will be a thread about what was said, but as I was getting ready for work, I missed it. Can you point to a few of his statements? I really wanted to hear what he had to say, which road of destruction he was leading us down this time ... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/22/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 19, 2011 "Hey wait a minute!! That's not True!!" then how can we say we're concerned about winning people for Christ? This is the problem with us Christians today. Well, I will say how we express the Gospel. What does it mean to win someone FOR Christ? How is that done? I may be splitting hairs, you may have a different meaning in mind, but from this viewpoint we horrible express the gospel. The gospel that we preach now-a-days is weak. We preach the Heaven and Hell gospel, the only reason why Christ is mentioned is so they understand He gets us out of Hell. Paul states: I preach CHRIST AND HIM crucified. The gospel is about a Person not a place. So it doesn't matter who says all roads lead to the same place (Heaven). We point people to a Person. Ruck1b, that is a very dangerously slippery slope. Yes the gospel is about a person, Jesus. John 14:6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. Where is the God the Father? Psalm47:8 God reigns above the nations, sitting on his holy throne. and where is this throne? Revelation 4:2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. So God the Father is on his holy throne in Heaven and the only way to him is through Jesus then saying all roads lead to heaven is saying Jesus lied. No its not, Jesus states that He is the Way to the Father..once again a Person. The slope is only slippery when the focus is on a place. Yes it is. You can slice and dice it all you want but the bottom line is Heaven and Hell are real places. Heaven is where God is and will be eternally. The people whose names are not found the book of life will be cast in the lake of fire Revelations 20. There are many ways to the lake of fire but only one way to God who is in heaven eternally. To say anything else is to say Jesus died in vain. end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted May 19, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted May 19, 2011 Mt 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Absolutely! It is by the persons fruit that we know they are from Him, and its the only way we can ever know what or how to 'judge' another. The judgment of the heart and deeds are only judged by Him. If obama, or anyone else, professes they/he belongs to Yeshua then his words and actions will be seen producing the fruit of the Spirit. shalom, Mizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Following the release of the poll, Obama stated that he is a Christian by choice and that "the precepts of Jesus Christ" were what drew him to Christianity. The And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13 Man Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 Said Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:7-10 And Said Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 8:38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I respect Billy Graham a lot. Unfortunately, there were holes in his method. The evidence was manifest in the high percentage of people who made commitments but did not stick with it. That is par for the course. Historically, most who make a profession of faith don't stick with it, but that could be for a variety of reasons, not necessarily because Billy Graham's method was flawed. For example, Billy Graham cannot possibly be held accountable for those who make less than genuine decision at the altar call. Maybe they went forward just because their friends did. The following is from ministrywatch.com about the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association's follow-up plan: "The responsibility of the follow-up department is to help inquirers begin to grow in their new life. Those who fill out a card are linked with local pastors who contact each individual personally in order to encourage them in their Christian faith. In addition, each inquirer is presented with a Bible study booklet entitled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted May 20, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted May 20, 2011 OK, I was afraid what I meant to say wasn't going to come out right. Oh never mind. I can't figure out how to express what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted May 20, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 7 reasons why Obama is NOT a Christian It's as clear as day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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