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Maybe the fruit made them fat :laugh:

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Hmpf Joe... none of what I said implied we were not to recognise the plank in our eye first, or to approach the situation with grace and mercy :rolleyes:.

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Maybe if I explain where this actually came from?

I was watching the Skit Guys acting out Adam and Eve. One of the elements they presented was the shock and horror of seeing each other naked. Now this is something that puzzled me before, but brought out even more as I saw how they acted this out - why would a husband and wife be horrified at seeing each other naked? (You know . . . alone together . . . garden . . . .) Later I was reading in the Scriptures an account where people had their nakedness exposed. Somehow a bunch of pieces together from other things I had been taught came together, and I came to understand the symbolism of nakedness and how it applied to what happened in the Garden of Eden.

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We see sin and doctrinal error all the time. And we aren't called to just look at the good and be blind to the crud. We are called to test all things, to exhort our brothers, drawing back those who have stumbled into sin, etc etc. I believe what we should see is not just the good, but the bad covered by the blood (or not, in the case of unbelievers).

This is actually addressing how we should deal with nakedness that is exposed, not about our eyes being opened to nakedness to begin with. There is a difference between Ham seeing his father's nakedness and blabbing about it to his two brothers and that of the two brothers draping a blanket over their father, refusing to turn their eyes towards his exposed body.

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We see sin and doctrinal error all the time. And we aren't called to just look at the good and be blind to the crud. We are called to test all things, to exhort our brothers, drawing back those who have stumbled into sin, etc etc. I believe what we should see is not just the good, but the bad covered by the blood (or not, in the case of unbelievers).

This is actually addressing how we should deal with nakedness that is exposed, not about our eyes being opened to nakedness to begin with. There is a difference between Ham seeing his father's nakedness and blabbing about it to his two brothers and that of the two brothers draping a blanket over their father, refusing to turn their eyes towards his exposed body.

Not really... our eyes are already open to the nakedness Neb. We know right from wrong, His laws are written in our hearts, we have the ability to discern what is of Him and what isn't. So we see others (we hope) for who they are, sinners cleansed by His blood.

We have to see this before we can know how to address it.

Where did the idea of blabbing about it come from? This is the first the thread has addressed improper reaction to seeing someone else's sin. I am not talking about doing anything of the sort. All I suggested were what to do when you see your brother in sin, using scripture.

Just :blink: at the reaction my post got. I have reread it a few times and don't see where it was lacking in mercy or humility.

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The best way I can explain what I believe God is saying here is by paraphrasing His words.

"Who said that you weren't pleasing to me just like you are?"

I think it's comparable to trying to add to what Yeshua did at the Cross, when we try to improve on how we were created.

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All I suggested were what to do when you see your brother in sin, using scripture.

I know . . . but what I'm trying to get at is that this is a different issue from what I was impressed with.

Sorry, I was fishing around for something to explain my thoughts, and I guess it didn't come out right.

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It's about how the fruit of the TKGE changed how we see others and ourselves.

What I perceive you to be saying is what to do now that this is how we see.

Does that make more sense?

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"Who said that you weren't pleasing to me just like you are?"

Uuhhh . . . yeah . . . that kind-of does describe how I've been perceiving myself my whole life . . . .

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Hmpf Joe... none of what I said implied we were not to recognise the plank in our eye first, or to approach the situation with grace and mercy :rolleyes:.

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