Islam and the Great Tribulation Period

[AnotherTraveler]

Event 11: Aramgeddon begins, Communists/Humanists see an advantage for themselves as they ARE NOT subject to the plagues that the ISLAM is now being subjected to. Send 200,000,000 man

army to the Euphrates river which is dried up to allow their passage to Armaggedon.

Event 13: Islamic and Communist/Humanist forces start fighting each other at Armageddon. This will be the worst and LAST human battle in history.

What happened to Event 12?

[Adstar]

A point to consider Brothers.

When the Anti-Messiah comes will He claim to be God right away? i don't think so.

Will He only claim to be the Messiah for a time untill He has fooled the Jews and the Muslims and many false Christians. into carrying out the beheading of true Followers of the True Messiah Jesus?

Maybe only after most of the true followers of The Messiah Jesus have been exterminated will He then claim to be God himself? Of course some Jews may at this time realize their error and reject him and maybe that will bring about the amasing of the 200 million army to exterminate these Jews fulfilling the prophesy of the "Day of the Lord" talked about by many OT prophets.

But i'm sure after all the lying signs and wonders that will be done by the Anti-Messiah that most of the muslims and false Christians will accept Him as God. Remember what Paul said? That because they have rejected the love of the Truth God will allow them to be deceived by the strong delusion so that they will believe in the lie. Maybe by that time they would have all received their little mark of the beast and will be too far gone?

Oh well something to ponder about.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

PS: Don't worry, His will is done.

[ted]

I just love these end times discussions!

They always bring out the polite in everyone.

These are just some of false endtime beliefs...ie. that the antichrist or false prophet arise from within the church, that will deceive many in the last days.

The big shots have a good hold on many with their false prophetic teachings. Both of you, Dad Ernie and Super Jew, make good students of false prophecy.

Time...and the events to come, should change your minds.

However, denial of the truth will be the option most christians will accept!

Reverend Turmoil

t.

[ted]

t.

[ted]

If you only knew the evil terms many of "our" Christians brothers and sisters call me.

With that kind of reply I assume that you are also caught up in the in the foolishness of pretribulationism and the ridiculous unified, worldwide, religious and political system that supposedly follows!

Good luck. Keep laughing...

The truth will soon silence it.

Rev Turmoil

And with that, I guess I know how you feel now, huh?

Anyway, I don't get too wrapped up in it either way.

I have accepted Christ and God's use of Him on the Cross. I Pray, I go to Church, I go out soul-winning, and am enjoying my four year old rebirth in the blood of Christ. I try to live right and pay for my mistakes just like anyone else.

When Jesus comes back, it's going to play out the way God wants it to, regardless of how man has tried to figure it all out.

Pre-trib, Post-trib, Mid-trib, 3/8ths-trib, what is it all going to matter when the Lord steps His foot back on earth and reclaims the world?

While semi-important, I have neither the time nor the education to try and dissect the Bible until I feel that only my deductions are the way it should be interpreted.

You want to be seen as legitimate in the eyes of God? Just go out and spread the Gospel to those that need it, rather than try to impress Christians with your superior knowledge of the ways of God. Worry not about the future, isn't Gods Love enough to sustain us? Hasn't He promised to take care of those that have accepted His plan for Salvation?

My advice? Don't get wrapped up in the stuff and assume you have the only answers. Remember, with all of the divisions, someone is going to be wrong!

Could it be you?

Relax, buddy. Things really aren't that bad.

Trust in God's Word and enjoy your work for the cause of Christ!

No go out and win that soul for Him!

t.

[Trinity]

t.

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With that kind of reply I assume that you are also caught up in the in the foolishness of pretribulationism and the ridiculous unified, worldwide, religious and political system that supposedly follows!

Good luck. Keep laughing...

The truth will soon silence it.

Rev Turmoil

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Thank You! your a very nice Reverend... No actually that was the nastiest thing i've ever seen on the board by a christian since coming to worthy... You should be ashamed... In all the pretrib post-trib fights nothing was as nasty as that.

I guess you Screen-name explains you Reverend Turmoil.

Turmiol means: a state or condition of extreme 1.confusion, 2.or agitation.

1. the quality or state of being confused

2. agitation means: a. to move with an irregular, rapid, or violent action. b. to excite and often trouble or to DISTURB.

[Yahsway]

Well, its for certain a house divided will not stand. Come on guys, play nice. Rev. T. has made some interesting points as have some of the others here.

All i do know for sure is we need to be ready for whatever will happen. Agreed?

[ted]

Agreed.

My point was, RT doesn't know one single thing about what I personally believe, yet came up with his response.

RT, Sorry man. I shouldn't treat a fellow NH guy like that. It just hit my funny bone at the time; Look around the web or even just a few sites, including this one, and you will see many that come along, condemn every one for being ignorant in the ways of the Lord, and start tossing insults around, just because they deem the rest of the board as unlearned or crazy.

Instead of getting angry or weary, this time it just hit me as funny.

I still don't know how you equate how pre-trib stuff makes God out to be a terrorist, though.

It'll be ok. Right or wrong, if we have accepted Christ as our Savior, we're on our way to Heaven.....right?

Ain't that what the Bible says?

Thank you, Jesus for the blood you shed for me!

t.

[ted]

Regardless, God is in control and has done many things in history simply to have his name glorified. One of the clearest examples is how we hardened the heart of Pharaoh against Moses and the Israelites. All to glorify His name. His ways are not always so easy for us to understand. That's why the debate over what exactly will happen and when seems so unneeded to me. If we only consider the pre, mid, and post tribulation theories, then roughly two thirds of Christians will be wrong and in some form of trouble when Christ returns. But yet, we are told that we are saved from eternal damnation (basically) if we put our trust in Christ, not one of the trib theories.

To me, that means if I am wrong, then I'm still washed in the blood, and the same for you. The fact is, many will be wrong about the issue. Does that mean the wrong ones are condemned? Well, as far as I can tell, not if they have accepted Christ's work on the cross and have confessed their sins and trusted Him as their Savior.

Each one of the "big three" arguments picks it's own verses to back up it's claims, so what's the point? Anyone running around and saying that their position is right and all others will go to hell is in danger of ending up with having spiritual egg on their faces, yet still Saved if they have accepted Christ.

I simply choose to let God use my energies toward fighting for the lost, rather than use it against the ones that have been washed in the blood, and still bicker among themselves.

Be at peace, Brother. It may be rewarding to you to sit on your mountain casting condemnation toward anyone that doesn't subscribe to what you have deemed to be the way things are, but down here, we have a battle to wage against the devil who will use these arguments to sway an undecided mind against Christ and God's wonderful Gift of Salvation through Christ. Look at your last three or four posts, Reverend. Would you listen to yourself if you were that one person that has yet to accept Christ?

t.

[ted]

Interesting, and for the most part, I agree. But I would further state that God is in control if all.

He allows sin a certain existence, but for the glory of His name. Why? I can't guess. I'm not sure why He would allow the devil free reign here on earth for now. I reckon to let humanity see His power by letting things get beyond the human ability to fix. In His ways, the end always justifies the means, whether we understand or not. It's a small way in which we put our faith in Him. We can trust that no matter how we feel about something, He is in control.

God giving the devil powers to manipulate and be the prince of the world in no way means that God's control is abated or lessened. He's still the one in control. I understand what you are saying about being hesitant to say that while witnessing, but yet it is the truth and lost souls need that more than anything. They need the truth about God, Christ, Salvation, and any other Biblical issue before they make their decision. As best we can put it, anyway.

Yes, I believe the devil is allowed to roam the earth right now, but it is all under the eye of God, and He holds the time in which He will stop the pain.

May we learn together in peace.

t.