What makes a christian?

[BobTriez]

Hey, once more i am putting forward another question i have been pondering fora while... Im sure it's probably come up before but ah well...

So I've been thinking about what I beleive and HOW I beleive in God.

Each denomination thinks that the way they beleive in christ is the right way to go about it... i.e. the difference between Catholics and Baptists... how can we be sure which one to follow... I personally started my church life in Baptist Churches and then onto the Kings church and similar christian meetings... my friend who is here with me is catholic... how can we beleive in the same god but go about it in totally different ways?

Scrambled.

Luke 10:26-28

26 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

27 He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind' ; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' "

28"You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."

[Orr v'emet]

I'm sorry to disagree, but I can't just let a newcomer go over to that forum and be, what I believe, is mislead.

We have to take a look at scripture.  Again, what Christ has said supercedes what any man has said or will ever say.

The chanting from verses arbitrarily taken from a few lines from different scriptures for 30 minutes, while blocking out knowledge?  Where did God tell us to do that?  If any of this can be supported through God's word, then I'll take a second look.  The only truth can be revealed in scripture.

It is never my intent to lead anyone astray. If you read the first part of God-Man's post it offers very good insight on receiving spiritual nourishment from the word instead of just "head knowledge" from the word.

Obviously the instruction we receive from Jesus will far supercede anything man can teach...no one has said otherwise.

[artsylady]

Respectfully, KMB, I might disagree, starting with Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and MIND.

I also typed in 'knowledge' and 'wisdom' into the Biblegateway.com. Never are these things spoken of badly. They are things we are supposed to seek and strive for, as long as it is Godly wisdom.

If there are scriptures that say wisdom or knowledge are bad and we should block out knowledge, then please post. I'd like to see them.

[Orr v'emet]

Respectfully, KMB, I might disagree, starting with Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and MIND.

I also typed in 'knowledge' and 'wisdom' into the Biblegateway.com. Never are these things spoken of badly. They are things we are supposed to seek and strive for, as long as it is Godly wisdom.

If there are scriptures that say wisdom or knowledge are bad and we should block out knowledge, then please post. I'd like to see them.

Artslady, it's not my intent to argue however I wonder if you read my post for what it said. You have implied much, much more than what I said. I never said knowledge nor wisdom was bad. What I said was there needs to be a combination of "head" and "heart" knowledge. I lived on "head" knowledge for far too long in my life. It needs to be balanced with "heart" knowledge. That was my point. Plain and simple.

[artsylady]

Artslady, it's not my intent to argue however I wonder if you read my post for what it said. You have implied much, much more than what I said. I never said knowledge nor wisdom was bad. What I said was there needs to be a combination of "head" and "heart" knowledge. I lived on "head" knowledge for far too long in my life. It needs to be balanced with "heart" knowledge. That was my point. Plain and simple.

I'm wondering where the Bible differentiates between 'heart' knowledge and 'head' knowledge, other than to differentiate between "Godly wisdom" and "worldly widsom". Is that what you mean? I would agree then that 'worldly wisdom' is not really beneficial in the big scheme of things. However, "Godly wisdom" is something that we should strive for. If I'm reading you correctly, I just don't know where it says that we should block this 'Godly wisdom or knowledge' out for any length of time. I'm not sure I understand. I'm not here to argue either, but to learn and ask. If we are supposed to do this, I just haven't seen it yet, so I'd appreciate learning where it is found in the Bible.

[Orr v'emet]

Artslady...maybe the confusion is coming in about the type of knowledge/wisdom I am referring to. I am referring to godly wisdom. Maybe these passages will give you a better understanding as to what I am talking about as far as having a balance of head and heart knowledge/wisdom:

Proverbs 2:1-5;10  My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding,

and if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God. (10) For wisdom will enter your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.

[artsylady]

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Proverbs 2:1-5;10  My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding,

and if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God. (10) For wisdom will enter your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.

Well Amen to that. Godly wisdom and knowledge from what I've seen in scripture is something to be greatly desired. I'm just wondering about any Biblical support that says that there is a time to block all of this out?

[AllforJesustheLord]

A true Christian is a leader by being a servant, and a leader is like an eagle, which can be found being alone, they do not go into large groups, they lead the people unto righteousness.

[Guest scrambled_brain]

Hi all... I've finally got my computer up and runnning again and want to say thankyou to all of you who wrote back to my original message on 'What makes a Christian?'... I will be printing out some of these replies to show to my friend who was with me when I started this thread.

I would though like to mention a couple of things;

So if God is revealing Himself to you, and it sounds to me like He is, then answer the call, get in prayer and ask Him into your heart if you havent already, (same with your friend), ask forgiveness for your sin, get into His word and get to know Him, ask Gods Spirit to guide you into the truth, and ask God to lead you to a church that worships Him in spirit and truth

Thankyou for the brill advice but I would like to note that I have been a christian for a number of years, I do read my Bible reguarly and have a personal relationship with God. The questions I asked in this thread were for the benifit of my friend. Its not the first time I have been approached on here by someone urging me to give my life to God... I already have! Most of the stuff I bring up on here are things that I havn't been able to discuss with other christians before. Im not upset, annoyed, offended or anything like that - no worries! - I just thought I should mention it thats all.

Anyhow, thanx for the replies once again, I hope they help to show my friend the reality of God as it often does when answers come from other people.

[Guest waterfall]

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