Even More Calendars Predict End in 2012

[goldust59]

Good grief!

Sometimes I wish we had a false prophecies forum to file these myths under.

Just kidding, I think......

Although I don't believe everything I hear about 2012, I think we should be careful about what are being called false prophecies or myths.

This is a false prophecy. There is no doubt about it.

If it ends up being true, and the world ends on Dec. 21, 2012, then this makes Daniel a false prophet. According to Daniel's prophecy, the end would not come until 3 1/2 years after the abomination of desolation.

So we have a choice. Either we believe that Daniel was a true prophet of God, or we can believe a calendar prophecy from a people that no longer exist. Question: Why would these people set up a day that the world would end when none of them or any of their ancestors would even be around to see it? It seems that their own dooms day visited them much sooner than they could even imagine.

If I were a betting man and this was a wager, I'd be putting everything I have on Daniel and God's Word.

LoL..... Thunder, none of these prophecies are saying that the world is going to end on the date or the time period...... just change LoL

agreed

[Guest shiloh357]

Every thing that is going on in the world can be traced back to either God or satan. God is in total control, but He is allowing satan to play out his part in His ultimate plan. Who do you see us being in conflict with, if not satan & the dark realm. How do you think the end time scenario is going to be brought out? satan has been refining his plan a long time & he will try to take over & destroy mankind.

We should not be unaware of where we are in time & what is happening.

They already have permission Shiloh.... We're just trying to make people understand that when we find ourselves under the buss that God told us about it before hand and we're not to panic about it..... He'll made it up to us in the end. Just like in the first century....

The 2012 stuff is about the end of the world. The Bible has nothing to say about the end of the world. The Bible teaches that there will an end to this world's current system, but not the end of the world. The 2012 is about entire world being cast into an upheaval due to cosmic forces and all that rot. The Bible teaches that this world's system will come to and end and Jesus will reign for 1,000 years and after that, he wil renovate the heavens and earth and sin will be forever eradicated. He doesn't destroy this world, he purges it from sin once and for all.

There is no end of the world. That is what makes this false prophecy and why this is just nonsense. I note that all of these "prophecies" stem from everywhere except one place, and that is the Bible. They try to make the Bible appear to line up with this, but you have people with no understanding of the purpose and plan of God and who are most likely not even Christians trying to make sense of a book they don't understand and for the most part, don't believe. It is an attempt to diminish the uniqueness of Scripture as if the Bible is on part with other mystical, prophetic documents, as if ultimately they all say the same thing.

If you believe in this 2012 stuff, you have depart from biblical truth to do so, as the Bible's outlook on the future of this planet is 180 degrees opposite of the 2012 prophecies.

[rollinTHUNDER]

Good grief!

Sometimes I wish we had a false prophecies forum to file these myths under.

Just kidding, I think......

Although I don't believe everything I hear about 2012, I think we should be careful about what are being called false prophecies or myths.

This is a false prophecy. There is no doubt about it.

If it ends up being true, and the world ends on Dec. 21, 2012, then this makes Daniel a false prophet. According to Daniel's prophecy, the end would not come until 3 1/2 years after the abomination of desolation.

So we have a choice. Either we believe that Daniel was a true prophet of God, or we can believe a calendar prophecy from a people that no longer exist. Question: Why would these people set up a day that the world would end when none of them or any of their ancestors would even be around to see it? It seems that their own dooms day visited them much sooner than they could even imagine.

If I were a betting man and this was a wager, I'd be putting everything I have on Daniel and God's Word.

LoL..... Thunder, none of these prophecies are saying that the world is going to end on the date or the time period...... just change LoL

Everyone that I've ever heard talking about this nonsense, even a documentary on tv, always say the world is going to end on that day. That's why I don't pay any attention to this foolishness.

[Guest shiloh357]

other one, on 26 November 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

LoL..... Thunder, none of these prophecies are saying that the world is going to end on the date or the time period...... just change LoL

agreed

The whole point behind the importance of the 2012 prophecies is that they allegedly all point to the end of world. In fact, they even twist the Bible to prove that this is end of the world. Every documentary I have seen on this points to 2012 as "the end of days." I have seen people wearing 2012 T-shirts with depictions of end of the world on them. That is the source of all the hype

[goldust59]

Every thing that is going on in the world can be traced back to either God or satan. God is in total control, but He is allowing satan to play out his part in His ultimate plan. Who do you see us being in conflict with, if not satan & the dark realm. How do you think the end time scenario is going to be brought out? satan has been refining his plan a long time & he will try to take over & destroy mankind.

We should not be unaware of where we are in time & what is happening.

They already have permission Shiloh.... We're just trying to make people understand that when we find ourselves under the buss that God told us about it before hand and we're not to panic about it..... He'll made it up to us in the end. Just like in the first century....

The 2012 stuff is about the end of the world. The Bible has nothing to say about the end of the world. The Bible teaches that there will an end to this world's current system, but not the end of the world. The 2012 is about entire world being cast into an upheaval due to cosmic forces and all that rot. The Bible teaches that this world's system will come to and end and Jesus will reign for 1,000 years and after that, he wil renovate the heavens and earth and sin will be forever eradicated. He doesn't destroy this world, he purges it from sin once and for all.

There is no end of the world. That is what makes this false prophecy and why this is just nonsense. I note that all of these "prophecies" stem from everywhere except one place, and that is the Bible. They try to make the Bible appear to line up with this, but you have people with no understanding of the purpose and plan of God and who are most likely not even Christians trying to make sense of a book they don't understand and for the most part, don't believe. It is an attempt to diminish the uniqueness of Scripture as if the Bible is on part with other mystical, prophetic documents, as if ultimately they all say the same thing.

If you believe in this 2012 stuff, you have depart from biblical truth to do so, as the Bible's outlook on the future of this planet is 180 degrees opposite of the 2012 prophecies.

The end of the world as we know it now is what I am talking about-----the current system, as you said. There have to be events take place that bring this about & that is what I am talking about. I believe the collapse of the world systems is in the works & has been for a long time & that satan is controlling the powers that are in control of it. Scripture gives us the outline & not necessarily the blow by blow of what all is involved.

Why are you saying that we have no understanding of the plan of God & are most likely not even Christians & don't understand or believe the Bible????? In what way are we trying to diminish the scriptures?

Sorry shiloh, that was uncalled for.

[Guest shiloh357]

The end of the world as we know it now is what I am talking about-----the current system, as you said. There have to be events take place that bring this about & that is what I am talking about. I believe the collapse of the world systems is in the works & has been for a long time & that satan is controlling the powers that are in control of it. Scripture gives us the outline & not necessarily the blow by blow of what all is involved.

But the Mayan "prophecies" (if you can call them that) are understood by those who are studying them as the end of the world. The end of life on this planet, not the end of the world's system.

Why are you saying that we have no understanding of the plan of God & are most likely not even Christians & don't understand or believe the Bible????? In what way are we trying to diminish the scriptures?

Sorry shiloh, that was uncalled for.

But I didn't say any of that. I said if you believe in the 2012 stuff you have to depart from biblical truth to do so. Where did I say you are not a Christian or that you don't understand the Bible???

I also did not say YOU are trying to diminish the Scriptures. I said that the prophecies come from everywhere except from the Bible and that they diminish the Bible by trying make it one of many mystical documents. Trying to tie the Bible into this 2012 is how the proponents (many of whom do not know the Bible or believe it) erode the uniqueness of Scripture.

I didn't say anything about you. I think perhaps you need to invest in some reading comprehension classes as you have a real problem in correctly framing my responses. It would do you some good to actually READ my responses and respond to what I write as opposed to your knee jerk reactions to something you incorrectly thought I said.

[goldust59]

The end of the world as we know it now is what I am talking about-----the current system, as you said. There have to be events take place that bring this about & that is what I am talking about. I believe the collapse of the world systems is in the works & has been for a long time & that satan is controlling the powers that are in control of it. Scripture gives us the outline & not necessarily the blow by blow of what all is involved.

But the Mayan "prophecies" (if you can call them that) are understood by those who are studying them as the end of the world. The end of life on this planet, not the end of the world's system.

Why are you saying that we have no understanding of the plan of God & are most likely not even Christians & don't understand or believe the Bible????? In what way are we trying to diminish the scriptures?

Sorry shiloh, that was uncalled for.

But I didn't say any of that. I said if you believe in the 2012 stuff you have to depart from biblical truth to do so. Where did I say you are not a Christian or that you don't understand the Bible???

I also did not say YOU are trying to diminish the Scriptures. I said that the prophecies come from everywhere except from the Bible and that they diminish the Bible by trying make it one of many mystical documents. Trying to tie the Bible into this 2012 is how the proponents (many of whom do not know the Bible or believe it) erode the uniqueness of Scripture.

I didn't say anything about you. I think perhaps you need to invest in some reading comprehension classes as you have a real problem in correctly framing my responses. It would do you some good to actually READ my responses and respond to what I write as opposed to your knee jerk reactions to something you incorrectly thought I said.

Who are you referring to here?(from post 23)

There is no end of the world. That is what makes this false prophecy and why this is just nonsense. I note that all of these "prophecies" stem from everywhere except one place, and that is the Bible. They try to make the Bible appear to line up with this, but you have people with no understanding of the purpose and plan of God and who are most likely not even Christians trying to make sense of a book they don't understand and for the most part, don't believe. It is an attempt to diminish the uniqueness of Scripture as if the Bible is on part with other mystical, prophetic documents, as if ultimately they all say the same thing.

[Guest shiloh357]

The end of the world as we know it now is what I am talking about-----the current system, as you said. There have to be events take place that bring this about & that is what I am talking about. I believe the collapse of the world systems is in the works & has been for a long time & that satan is controlling the powers that are in control of it. Scripture gives us the outline & not necessarily the blow by blow of what all is involved.

But the Mayan "prophecies" (if you can call them that) are understood by those who are studying them as the end of the world. The end of life on this planet, not the end of the world's system.

Why are you saying that we have no understanding of the plan of God & are most likely not even Christians & don't understand or believe the Bible????? In what way are we trying to diminish the scriptures?

Sorry shiloh, that was uncalled for.

But I didn't say any of that. I said if you believe in the 2012 stuff you have to depart from biblical truth to do so. Where did I say you are not a Christian or that you don't understand the Bible???

I also did not say YOU are trying to diminish the Scriptures. I said that the prophecies come from everywhere except from the Bible and that they diminish the Bible by trying make it one of many mystical documents. Trying to tie the Bible into this 2012 is how the proponents (many of whom do not know the Bible or believe it) erode the uniqueness of Scripture.

I didn't say anything about you. I think perhaps you need to invest in some reading comprehension classes as you have a real problem in correctly framing my responses. It would do you some good to actually READ my responses and respond to what I write as opposed to your knee jerk reactions to something you incorrectly thought I said.

Who are you referring to here?(from post 23)

There is no end of the world. That is what makes this false prophecy and why this is just nonsense. I note that all of these "prophecies" stem from everywhere except one place, and that is the Bible. They try to make the Bible appear to line up with this, but you have people with no understanding of the purpose and plan of God and who are most likely not even Christians trying to make sense of a book they don't understand and for the most part, don't believe. It is an attempt to diminish the uniqueness of Scripture as if the Bible is on part with other mystical, prophetic documents, as if ultimately they all say the same thing.

I was talking about all these people making the documentaries and making all these predictions. All of these "experts" who supposedly are studying not only the Mayan prophecies but other alleged prophecies from other mysical documents. That is who "they" referred to. If I was talking about you, I would have used the pronoun, "YOU." I would figure the average person would be able to discern the difference.

[other one]

Good grief!

Sometimes I wish we had a false prophecies forum to file these myths under.

Just kidding, I think......

Although I don't believe everything I hear about 2012, I think we should be careful about what are being called false prophecies or myths.

This is a false prophecy. There is no doubt about it.

If it ends up being true, and the world ends on Dec. 21, 2012, then this makes Daniel a false prophet. According to Daniel's prophecy, the end would not come until 3 1/2 years after the abomination of desolation.

So we have a choice. Either we believe that Daniel was a true prophet of God, or we can believe a calendar prophecy from a people that no longer exist. Question: Why would these people set up a day that the world would end when none of them or any of their ancestors would even be around to see it? It seems that their own dooms day visited them much sooner than they could even imagine.

If I were a betting man and this was a wager, I'd be putting everything I have on Daniel and God's Word.

LoL..... Thunder, none of these prophecies are saying that the world is going to end on the date or the time period...... just change LoL

Everyone that I've ever heard talking about this nonsense, even a documentary on tv, always say the world is going to end on that day. That's why I don't pay any attention to this foolishness.

I guess that's the difference between us..... I read the prophecies and you listen to tv..

[goldust59]

The end of the world as we know it now is what I am talking about-----the current system, as you said. There have to be events take place that bring this about & that is what I am talking about. I believe the collapse of the world systems is in the works & has been for a long time & that satan is controlling the powers that are in control of it. Scripture gives us the outline & not necessarily the blow by blow of what all is involved.

But the Mayan "prophecies" (if you can call them that) are understood by those who are studying them as the end of the world. The end of life on this planet, not the end of the world's system.

Why are you saying that we have no understanding of the plan of God & are most likely not even Christians & don't understand or believe the Bible????? In what way are we trying to diminish the scriptures?

Sorry shiloh, that was uncalled for.

But I didn't say any of that. I said if you believe in the 2012 stuff you have to depart from biblical truth to do so. Where did I say you are not a Christian or that you don't understand the Bible???

I also did not say YOU are trying to diminish the Scriptures. I said that the prophecies come from everywhere except from the Bible and that they diminish the Bible by trying make it one of many mystical documents. Trying to tie the Bible into this 2012 is how the proponents (many of whom do not know the Bible or believe it) erode the uniqueness of Scripture.

I didn't say anything about you. I think perhaps you need to invest in some reading comprehension classes as you have a real problem in correctly framing my responses. It would do you some good to actually READ my responses and respond to what I write as opposed to your knee jerk reactions to something you incorrectly thought I said.

Who are you referring to here?(from post 23)

There is no end of the world. That is what makes this false prophecy and why this is just nonsense. I note that all of these "prophecies" stem from everywhere except one place, and that is the Bible. They try to make the Bible appear to line up with this, but you have people with no understanding of the purpose and plan of God and who are most likely not even Christians trying to make sense of a book they don't understand and for the most part, don't believe. It is an attempt to diminish the uniqueness of Scripture as if the Bible is on part with other mystical, prophetic documents, as if ultimately they all say the same thing.

I was talking about all these people making the documentaries and making all these predictions. All of these "experts" who supposedly are studying not only the Mayan prophecies but other alleged prophecies from other mysical documents. That is who "they" referred to. If I was talking about you, I would have used the pronoun, "YOU." I would figure the average person would be able to discern the difference.

Ok shiloh, I see who you were speaking of. However, although I am not one of these "experts" out making documentaries, I do look at some of the ancient cultures & what they had to say about what they thought was going to come in the future & whether or not it might line up with end time prophecy of the Bible. Therefore, I did see your comments as referring to me & others that do the same. My apologies since that was not what you meant.

There is no reason for you to attack me personally with your comments about "the average person" & the "reading comprehension classes". I would appreciate it if you would stop doing so.