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[year2027]

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God

I am going to try to write something about our last moment of life!

01-29-2012

The last moment of our live is the last days to God, which the last season we walk on this earth. In God’s word we read the last hour has came some two thousand years ago but is that our last hour. This was Christ last hour but our last hour is still to come where Christ gave up his life for us but our last hour will be like Christ was.

John 4:21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

What happen at the moment of Christ life out the ordinary everyday death of Jesus Christ what special does God word talk about. The are things that happen that day that which divide the courts of God was ripe in two parts and all the world was darken but the third thing are graves were open. The graves are the one part I want to share with you because is the point I want to talk about.

Matthew 27:51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

The moment of Jesus Christ life the dead looking forward to his death arose from the death and show they the dead appearing all over the world. Was this the dead in Christ who must rise first in God’s holy word of truth? They were the ones that look forward in time for Christ wining over death they were death but lets read what God says.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. _

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

The trumpet God sounded when the dead became to rise at the moment of Jesus Christ death so which is it even if you do not agree with me. I explain the death rose from their graves because they must be the dead in Christ God word talk about. But the alive in Christ they are we, which is the moment we die is the last moment of our life otherwise many returns of Christ different one from another.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Do you know the hour you will take your last breath you might be in bed and you know you will not last long but no one knows the hour of his or her last breath. Even people about to die on death row always hope something will happen that day that stops others from taken your life. So this verse does not prove any thing at all we did not know already but lets look more.

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”

What are these warning signs we must look for the day we die or the moment we will see Christ face to face. But we must read more because there more that Jesus Christ taught us about his seed in us. A seed that planed in a woman the lesser kind of the two not that the woman is lower than man because she holds the seed inside of her.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

This talking planting the seed in her it not talking about when come of the flesh so conceive would a better to translated inside the Greek give it as possible word for born. Do you come out of something before your planted in something? Can a person be born unless that person been conceive or planted?

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Christ in you not Christ looking in on you but the seed of Christ has been planted in you, which you have become the lesser creature you are the bride. Yes you are the woman that will house new child which is you because temple is the body where the church is. But lets look more on this subject deeper study.

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

When Jesus Christ was preparing the apostles to receive the gift that was about to be giving Jesus Christ on them. When the day of Pentecost had come there was sound of heavy breathing or a mighty wind. This was to be a sign that the gift was given but who has heard this sound when making love but lets look at your life.

James 4:14 Where as ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Your life is a vapor or air enters your body and air going out of your body Oxygen enters in your body to give it life. But lets talk about your death when you take your last breath and you die to this world. When you die what do you hear heavy breath of air until there none and give up the ghost or your born spiritually.

Revelation 21:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

This is your life and Revelations has it all from being conceive d in Christ to dieing with Christ in your heart the first is conceived in the flesh than the birth from your mother womb then you die. Then you are spiritual conceived by believing in Jesus Christ and then you come out of flesh to be Christ in kind the birth or changed into Mortal kind.

1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Death has lost its power over because have been saved by the love of Jesus Christ the act of dieing for us the mystery of hope. This mystery was hide in Moses time but is reveled to us the Church of truth inside each of us. Thank you with love and holy kiss Roy.

[He giveth more grace]

I would think that the last days will begin when the armies of the European Union and the Anti-Christ would stand of Israeli soil.

[mizzdy]

Roy,

The way you structure your sentences and thoughts makes it hard for us to follow with what you are saying. Is English your second language or is this your attempt at putting some kind of languages together as you wrote here on another thread:

yes you will my friend

because written is because I pick to read

I read so Old English my style took on that

than I read look wrote in 1400 - 1800 AD

so I have old English mix with mid English

with love and a holy kiss Roy

If you could answer a few questions it might help us understand you and what you are saying a bit better. Do you believe in the God of the bible, His Son Yeshua, (Jesus) who died on the cross for the penalty and curse of sin? You seem to have a bit of a different idea of Gods will. We are to allow God's Spirit to align our will/heart/mind with His allowing Him to mold and change us into the person He wishes us to be. I also do not understand your words on death, must we die in this physical body before we can become His? or are we only His at our death? If you could answer this questions and perhaps try using plain English instead of a combo of hi and low English which really are not even spoken today except in movies.

Are you also trying to say that we are not 'saved' until we are physically dead?

shalom,

Mizzdy

[OneLight]

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God

I am going to try to write something about our last moment of life!

01-29-2012

The last moment of our live is the last days to God, which the last season we walk on this earth. In God’s word we read the last hour has came some two thousand years ago but is that our last hour. This was Christ last hour but our last hour is still to come where Christ gave up his life for us but our last hour will be like Christ was.

John 4:21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Your train of thought is very hard to follow. Are you saying that we will all be crucified on a cross as Jesus was?

What happen at the moment of Christ life out the ordinary everyday death of Jesus Christ what special does God word talk about. The are things that happen that day that which divide the courts of God was ripe in two parts and all the world was darken but the third thing are graves were open. The graves are the one part I want to share with you because is the point I want to talk about.

Matthew 27:51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

The moment of Jesus Christ life the dead looking forward to his death arose from the death and show they the dead appearing all over the world. Was this the dead in Christ who must rise first in God’s holy word of truth? They were the ones that look forward in time for Christ wining over death they were death but lets read what God says.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. _

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

The trumpet God sounded when the dead became to rise at the moment of Jesus Christ death so which is it even if you do not agree with me. I explain the death rose from their graves because they must be the dead in Christ God word talk about. But the alive in Christ they are we, which is the moment we die is the last moment of our life otherwise many returns of Christ different one from another.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

I disagree with you because you are confusing the verses about the graves being opened with what is called the rapture. The Trump that will sound when Christ returns has yet to happen. The rising of the dead was on the day Christ died, while the second coming of Christ is what we all still wait for. As you have shown in Mark 13:32, no men, not angel, not even Jesus knows the hour He will return. If the scripture that speaks of His return had happened, then that hour would be known.

Do you know the hour you will take your last breath you might be in bed and you know you will not last long but no one knows the hour of his or her last breath. Even people about to die on death row always hope something will happen that day that stops others from taken your life. So this verse does not prove any thing at all we did not know already but lets look more.

Again, you seem to be assigning the verses speaking of Christ return with our physical death. Scripture can not be twisted to fit our personal beliefs.

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”

What are these warning signs we must look for the day we die or the moment we will see Christ face to face. But we must read more because there more that Jesus Christ taught us about his seed in us. A seed that planed in a woman the lesser kind of the two not that the woman is lower than man because she holds the seed inside of her.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

This talking planting the seed in her it not talking about when come of the flesh so conceive would a better to translated inside the Greek give it as possible word for born. Do you come out of something before your planted in something? Can a person be born unless that person been conceive or planted?

This is speaking of a physical birth and of a spiritual one. To continue in John 3, we read:

Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Jesus tells us that we need to first be born of the physical (water), then the spiritual (Holy Spirit), which is done the moment you accept Christ.

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Christ in you not Christ looking in on you but the seed of Christ has been planted in you, which you have become the lesser creature you are the bride. Yes you are the woman that will house new child which is you because temple is the body where the church is. But lets look more on this subject deeper study.

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

When Jesus Christ was preparing the apostles to receive the gift that was about to be giving Jesus Christ on them. When the day of Pentecost had come there was sound of heavy breathing or a mighty wind. This was to be a sign that the gift was given but who has heard this sound when making love but lets look at your life.

James 4:14 Where as ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Your life is a vapor or air enters your body and air going out of your body Oxygen enters in your body to give it life.

You are applying the meaning of this scripture incorrectly. Jesus is comparing this life on earth to teh eternal life we have once we accept Him. It is not about breathing.

But lets talk about your death when you take your last breath and you die to this world. When you die what do you hear heavy breath of air until there none and give up the ghost or your born spiritually.

Revelation 21:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

This is your life and Revelations has it all from being conceive d in Christ to dieing with Christ in your heart the first is conceived in the flesh than the birth from your mother womb then you die. Then you are spiritual conceived by believing in Jesus Christ and then you come out of flesh to be Christ in kind the birth or changed into Mortal kind.

Again, you are applying incorrect meaning to scripture. We don't have to wait until we are dead to be born again in Christ. We are His once we accept Him as out Lord and Savior. The moment we are saved, we are sealed by His Spirit. There is no waiting until death to have life.

Ephesians 1:13-14

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Death has lost its power over because have been saved by the love of Jesus Christ the act of dieing for us the mystery of hope. This mystery was hide in Moses time but is reveled to us the Church of truth inside each of us. Thank you with love and holy kiss Roy.

I see that you have put a lot of effort in this, yet I find many mistakes in applying what you have used as scripture. Life is given to use upon salvation, not upon our physical death. Out physical death is only a release from this life, where we will be with Christ spiritually, where we will be known as we are known. Death is not a rebirth, but a continuance, for it is our spirit that returns to Christ at that moment.

God Bless,

Alan

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For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Great Joy~!

Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.

The LORD hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the LORD, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.

In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack.

The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:14-17

[year2027]

God first

thanks Monarchy and Alan and FresnoJoe

Monarchy - not read that in the bible sorry European Union is not in any Bible

Alan - we will all die the How matter not - then explain it but one has even try nor have even and to disagree is not explain it my friend - you have not give a verse to counter the one I show you - you must conceive first nothing is planted and Jesus taught about seed By the way side or with weeds or on rocky ground - I could say Alan You are applying the meaning of this scripture incorrectly that is not understanding of any verse - so you claim but I love you too

FresnoJoe - you bless with more verses thanks

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[Guest]

But lets talk about your death when you take your last breath and you die to this world. When you die what do you hear heavy breath of air until there none and give up the ghost or your born spiritually.... then you die.... Then you are spiritual conceived by believing in Jesus Christ and then you come out of flesh to be Christ in kind the birth or changed into Mortal kind....

Again, you are applying incorrect meaning to scripture. We don't have to wait until we are dead to be born again in Christ. We are His once we accept Him as out Lord and Savior. The moment we are saved, we are sealed by His Spirit. There is no waiting until death to have life.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

Not

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8

To

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. Hebrews 2:9

Worry

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25

Beloved

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:23

Love, Your Brother Joe

[OneLight]

God first

Alan - we will all die the How matter not - then explain it but one has even try nor have even and to disagree is not explain it my friend - you have not give a verse to counter the one I show you - you must conceive first nothing is planted and Jesus taught about seed By the way side or with weeds or on rocky ground - I could say Alan You are applying the meaning of this scripture incorrectly that is not understanding of any verse - so you claim but I love you too

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Hi Roy,

I will reply with scripture as requested where scripture backs scripture. It will have to be broken down into subjects, but it will be done. I will start this when I get home from work.

God Bless,

Alan

[He giveth more grace]

Monarchy - not read that in the bible sorry European Union is not in any Bible

I am glad you notice that, but the Roman Empire is and the Eu countries are the old Roman Empire and their will be the Revised Roman Empire, it is even now, the Old Roman Empire will be knocking at Israel's door soon.

[OneLight]

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God

I am going to try to write something about our last moment of life!

01-29-2012

The last moment of our live is the last days to God, which the last season we walk on this earth. In God’s word we read the last hour has came some two thousand years ago but is that our last hour. This was Christ last hour but our last hour is still to come where Christ gave up his life for us but our last hour will be like Christ was.

John 4:21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Your train of thought is very hard to follow. Are you saying that we will all be crucified on a cross as Jesus was?

There is no scripture telling us that we will die as Christ died, which is my point here. Would you care to expound on your statement that I placed in bold and underlined?

Neither do I understand what John 4:21-24 has to do with how Christ died or death in general. I can see that we are to worship the Lord in spirit and truth, which I fully agree with.