He giveth more grace Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or 'a' tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive memory by quoting all of gold59's post. You have not heard that we shall not all die: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Woot, woot, secret meeting. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Woot woot, secret meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or 'a' tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive memory by quoting all of gold59's post. You have not heard that we shall not all die: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Woot, woot, secret meeting. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Woot woot, secret meeting. i would like to know who will teach the trib saints that is for them as that doenst apply and the bible doesnt say it excludes them. and you forget this all means all. so it cant exclude the trib saints, so they dont get new bodies? they have to die to be raised up or there when he comes. theres no mention of some second transformation for the other saints its all of us at the same time when he comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 i would like to know who will teach the trib saints that is for them as that doenst apply and the bible doesnt say it excludes them. and you forget this all means all. so it cant exclude the trib saints, so they dont get new bodies? they have to die to be raised up or there when he comes. theres no mention of some second transformation for the other saints its all of us at the same time when he comes. Jason, please, don't talk "wisdom" without the word. Nope, your wrong! You just stumbled over the scripture proof of the gathering with Christ in the clouds, the catching away. You wrest with the scripture to your own confussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bekkie Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/21/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/29/1946 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I am reading a classic example of not answering a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or 'a' tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive memory by quoting all of gold59's post. You have not heard that we shall not all die: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Woot, woot, secret meeting. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Woot woot, secret meeting. Monarchy, Would you explain what you mean by the comment,"Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive of memory by quoting all of gold59's post"? The post I made was not quoted. ?? Is there some problem between us I am unaware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or 'a' tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive memory by quoting all of gold59's post. You have not heard that we shall not all die: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Woot, woot, secret meeting. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Woot woot, secret meeting. Monarchy, Would you explain what you mean by the comment,"Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive of memory by quoting all of gold59's post"? The post I made was not quoted. ?? Is there some problem between us I am unaware of? goldust is talking about my reply to . Hey, it's not my server, I'm just having a bad day for some reason, short tempered, ill, I wish it would past. goldust, just blow my reply off and me off today, please. No, we have open fellowship, nothing between, I'm just out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I usually don't get into the Dispensation / pre-post-or 'a' tribulation rapture threads. BUT.... I am a pre-trib-er, I believe that we are not appointed to wrath, and the tribulation is the "time of Jacob's trouble" not the world (no trib in Baton Rouge ) . How are we to come back with Christ's second advent if we have not been in heaven before? Just some thoughts, I wanted to sign-off on being a pre-Trib rapturist. simple a pauline quote" for die is gain, to be absent with body is to be present with the lord" the rapture verse is ressurection not some secret gathering. Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive memory by quoting all of gold59's post. You have not heard that we shall not all die: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Woot, woot, secret meeting. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Woot woot, secret meeting. Monarchy, Would you explain what you mean by the comment,"Firstly, thank you for contributing to our ever growing archive of memory by quoting all of gold59's post"? The post I made was not quoted. ?? Is there some problem between us I am unaware of? goldust is talking about my reply to . Hey, it's not my server, I'm just having a bad day for some reason, short tempered, ill, I wish it would past. goldust, just blow my reply off and me off today, please. No, we have open fellowship, nothing between, I'm just out of it. K. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Prayers for your day to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncran Posted March 23, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,246 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2012 i would like to know who will teach the trib saints that is for them as that doenst apply and the bible doesnt say it excludes them. and you forget this all means all. so it cant exclude the trib saints, so they dont get new bodies? they have to die to be raised up or there when he comes. theres no mention of some second transformation for the other saints its all of us at the same time when he comes. Jason, please, don't talk "wisdom" without the word. Nope, your wrong! You just stumbled over the scripture proof of the gathering with Christ in the clouds, the catching away. You wrest with the scripture to your own confussion. so why then would jesus say to the apostles that it is not for you to know the times NOR the seasons when they asked about the restoration of isreal? it makes no sense for it to be soo obvious to us and they write and not know what to look for? and the glory cloud thing is repeated moses saw the YHWH come in cloud, and also annias. the later would have to know it to be told that was his judgement for crucifying the lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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