are we anti-discrimination unto God?

[year2027]

God first

thanks chloe_fantastic and MorningGlory

yes they are on the same ground as we are needing be save

with love and a holy kiss Roy

thanks Arthur Durnan

Jesus Christ for all

God gives us room to be anything

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[OldShep]

God first

thanks Dennis

than you no problem with Atheists or homosexuals

not judging them but loving where they are

Now I not homosexual or Atheism

loving your enemy no matter what or who they are

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Yes, God First

You are wrong Sir, for I do judge men.

It is because I Love them that I judge them, as I judge myself so that I may resist evil. { I fail many times }

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Love the man Hate the sin

Luk_12:57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?

ICL~~Dennis

[Guest]

Amen~!

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,

nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:1-2

[Guest]

Tolerating sin, condoning sin is the bain of the "Church" and why many denominations are telling lies and selling ignorance - apostasy. Sure, we are to love the sinner while hating the sin, but if we are silent about the sin, if we do not point out the sinfulness of the individuals (everyone's) actions, then we cannot lead them to the Cross (or back into fellowship with the Lord). Where is the love of Christ in that?

Edited February 10, 2012 by Parker1

[year2027]

God first

thanks Dennis and fresnoJoe and Parker1

Dennis - judgement is for God only and we judge ourself not others is the meaning of Luke 12:57

yes we judge ourself fresnoJoe Bless it is the man that see's his own weakness

Parker1 - we lead by love knowing we are in the same boat

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[OldShep]

God first

thanks Dennis and fresnoJoe and Parker1

Dennis - judgement is for God only and we judge ourself not others is the meaning of Luke 12:57

yes we judge ourself fresnoJoe Bless it is the man that see's his own weakness

Parker1 - we lead by love knowing we are in the same boat

with love and a holy kiss Roy

God is still First.

2027, You say judgement is for God only, yet Jesus instructs us to beware of False prophets, How do we do this without judging their works and their Fruit?

Mat_10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. {Is not judgement needed to identify these wolves}

Those who do not use good judgement, may very well fall in with those who do evil, least they Judge what is right before hand.

What keeps you from hanging out with, murders, drug addicts, people that steal, people that molest children, having sex with the same sex? {Are you not making some kind of judgement so that you will not become a member of the Wolf pack? }

Pro_10:13 Wisdom is found on the lips of the discerning, but a rod is for the back of him who lacks judgment.

ICL~~~Dennis.

[year2027]

God first

thanks Dennis

its not about law I must by but it is about the image of love

what image do you see with judgement

A Godly judge that fare to all but hate to some

that not the love of God

no wonder there are Atheists

some do not know what is love

Jesus Christ taught us to love all even our enemies

are so busy judging others that find reason to love

Jesus Christ taught to look at ourself and take the bean out of our own eye

one cannot judge others until they have judge them self first

because I can point many fingers at you

or myself

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[MorningGlory]

no wonder there are Atheists

some do not know what is love

Do you think atheists do not know what love is? That is a bold statement.

Thanks for the uppercase, I guess...

Ciao

-viole

Atheists are able to love, yes; in a worldly sense, they love their families and friends. I believe the OP is talking about loving God and loving one's enemies even though they don't seem worthy of that (forgive me if I'm wrong, 2027). I've yet to see an atheist who loves his/her enemies, viole. That only comes through a relationship with the Lord.

[year2027]

God first

thanks viole and MorningGlory

we Claim God is love

so an Atheist has no love or am Atheist does

you can not have it both ways

Atheist is a person that does not believe in power of God but if one does believe something realm does become less real

NO it does not

what is real I can not change nor you can nor an atheist can

we are stuck with this world and we will be stuck with the next

we are taught that God is Love and to love one another no matter what even they are our enemy

we are our biggest enemy

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Edited February 12, 2012 by year2027

[gdemoss]

The topic of Love and Discrimination has to be in the top 5 most misunderstood topics of the bible by far.

God is Love, but Love is not God because God has many other attributes that govern his Love such as his Righteousness, Justice, Mercy and Grace.

Discrimination is known in the bible as "Respect of persons" which God does not do and nor should we. We ought to offer the Gospel of salvation to the rich and the poor without making them sit in different sections in the assembly. Now if one of them happens to be openly in sin, such as fornication, we are to give them over to Satan for the punishment of the flesh that the soul may be saved in that day. Jesus went out and ate with sinners of all kinds for the purpose of preaching the kingdom of God and calling them to repentance or their sin so that they might turn toward God. Purging out the old leaven is not discrimination, nor is it unloving as it may lead to the persons salvation. Holding your arms wide open daily in fellowship with someone who openly sins is sin in and of itself and not loving as both will come into judgment.

Examples of true love found in the bible are:

Jesus saying to Peter "Get behind me Satan!"

Paul withstanding Peter to the face over being a hypocrite.

Jesus laying down his life for the sheep.

Accepting someone who is 'weak' in the faith but not in sin.

Bearing anothers burden by not partaking in lawful things that might cause him to stumble.

Casting out the fornicating sinner from your assembly only to find that he becomes repentant later.

Warning people against being a pig or a dog, one who wallows in the mud after being washed or returns to their old vomit.

You see, God is Love, so anything you do that directs people into becoming more like God is Loving Them. Sometimes it doesn't sound or look real pretty by human moral standards that question Gods ways, but it is necessary if we are to 'wash the feet' of our brothers in Christ.

In Jesus Name,

Gary