Some wives need to be beaten

[Catsmeow]

Just and FYI there are Christian sects that still advocate the rule of thumb.  That is that you should beat your wife and children on a regular basis with a rod to keep the fear of god in them.  Personally if I ever came across someone of this nature I would have trouble restraining myself. 

I mention it simply to counter the notion that all Muslems believe the same thing.  Just as there are numerous variations of Christianity there are numerous ways of being a Muslem.

Cults are a dime a dozen and all of them, including Islam ...are from Satan himself.

True Christianity has never endorsed beating a wife. There is NO PLACE in the bible that endorses this practice, so anyone who does it is acting on their own.

Regarding children - children can be spanked but again, this requires a parent to be slow to anger and only to act in the best interest of that child.

An undisciplined child is harmed for lack of discipline ....and God seeks to take the necessary steps to protect the child from harming himself later on in life. In in no way endorses the belief that's beating a child into oblivion is acceptable.

It was very rare that I ever spanked my child. Even then, a few pats on the bum and that was sufficient. When the child reaches 9 or 10, they're really too old for that and it's best to use restrictions to curb behavior.

This whole attitude of beating wives is primitive and typical of a cult. They lord power over the heads of men, preying on one of their very basic instincts to control others.

How sad...

[dgolvach]

Cults are a dime a dozen and all of them, including Islam ...are from Satan himself.

True Christianity has never endorsed beating a wife. There is NO PLACE in the bible that endorses this practice, so anyone who does it is acting on their own.

Regarding children - children can be spanked but again, this requires a parent to be slow to anger and only to act in the best interest of that child.

An undisciplined child is harmed for lack of discipline ....and God seeks to take the necessary steps to protect the child from harming himself later on in life. In in no way endorses the belief that's beating a child into oblivion is acceptable.

It was very rare that I ever spanked my child. Even then, a few pats on the bum and that was sufficient. When the child reaches 9 or 10, they're really too old for that and it's best to use restrictions to curb behavior.

This whole attitude of beating wives is primitive and typical of a cult. They lord power over the heads of men, preying on one of their very basic instincts to control others.

How sad

AMEN!! times five

[Guest preacherswife3]

[color=Personally speaking from a person whom was married to a man who beat me. It is appauling that this does go on. I know from personal experience that I do not want to be controlled by any man I am my own person. when this would happen in my marriage I felt as if I were being punished for something that I might or might not have done. Beating your wife is not the answer to any problems you may or maynot have. I could not talk to my husband with out being accused of something. We were married 16 yrs and during the last 6 yrs the beatings started. I went into a shell that to this day I sometimes have problems getting out of. I have been hospitalized for some of the beatings. My husband would claim to be the great christian in public and at home a different person.

I had very little friends and still do my only saving grace is that I got out of my marriage, and now have found the most perfect person to spend the rest of my life with. I have no more fear of being beat or punished for anything I can be very honest with my new husband. Because I know he will never hurt me in the ways my ex-husband did. I feel very sorry for the women that have to put up with this practice. Because I am sure that they feel alot like I did ashamed, and embarrased by this. even if it their upbringing it is still wrong and they will have to answer to God when they get to heaven.

And with God being such a loving God how could he think that this practice is OK? I believe that they at that time will be punished for their actions

[Guest Strservant]

[color=Personally speaking from a person whom was married to a man who beat me. It is appauling that this does go on. I know from personal experience that I do not want to be controlled by any man I am my own person. when this would happen in my marriage I felt as if I were being punished for something that I might or might not have done. Beating your wife is not the answer to any problems you may or maynot have. I could not talk to my husband with out being accused of something. We were married 16 yrs and during the last 6 yrs the beatings started. I went into a shell that to this day I sometimes have problems getting out of. I have been hospitalized for some of the beatings. My husband would claim to be the great christian in public and at home a different person.

I had very little friends and still do my only saving grace is that I got out of my marriage, and now have found the most perfect person to spend the rest of my life with. I have no more fear of being beat or punished for anything I can be very honest with my new husband. Because I know he will never hurt me in the ways my ex-husband did. I feel very sorry for the women that have to put up with this practice. Because I am sure that they feel alot like I did ashamed, and embarrased by this. even if it their upbringing it is still wrong and they will have to answer to God when they get to heaven.

And with God being such a loving God how could he think that this practice is OK? I believe that they at that time will be punished for their actions

PW3,

I hope more people will take the time to read your post as it was genuine and heartfelt. I'm glad you are out of that past situation and have moved on.

Strservant

[irishcowboy]

With regard to spaking children, I think it's important to note that our definition of "beating" today varies greatly with that of the Biblical era. Today we use the term "beating" to descrie a merciless pummeling of another person. "Spanking" is the most appropriate term to use today with regard to disciplining children.

I disagree with you, Az, that spanking children teaches them violence. In fact, there is increasing evidence that spanking coupled with instruction, is effective in behavior modification (for lack of a better term). Studies have also shown that parents who do not regularly discipline their children have trouble with authority and frequently get into a lot of trouble. In fact, children who are not disciplined by their parents often intentionally get into trouble just so they can be disciplined.

As far as this Muslim clreic goes. I think it's safe to say that he's preaching from what the Koran says. To me this just places the Koran and the Bible and the Koran further apart in terms of truth and light. The God I serve would never tell me to beat my wife.

I had the rod (literal, as in switch, belt paddle, and moms favorite, the spatula) set to my back side many times........

do I regret doing things that caused that rod to be planted, yes, i sure did.....

did I make the same mistake twice? in some cases, yes, most cases, NO WAY.....

did I ever get one i did not desearve? yep, sure did, but then again, there were many many many times i didnt get a whippin when i did desearve one....

now, looking back, i see where if i had not been corrected, i would have been building a habit, or life style that would have ended me up in jail or dead......

do I blame my dad, and mom for any of the spankings or whipping???? no way, i brought each and every one on my self, they were only the administrators of the punishment...... did they do it in anger? there might have been anger at times, but afterwards, when it was done, they were still my mom and dad, and they still loved me as much as before if not more.......

you know, it hurts me more to spank my kids then what it hurts them..... breaks my heart to have to correct them..... cause it makes us parents feel that we have not done every thing we were suppose to do, makes us feel as though we have failed......

Thank You Jesus for bringing us freedom from the penalties of death......

mike

[Catsmeow]

Mike, I'm always refreshed by your posts...Thank you. Cats

[larryt]

With regard to spaking children, I think it's important to note that our definition of "beating" today varies greatly with that of the Biblical era.  Today we use the term "beating" to descrie a merciless pummeling of another person.  "Spanking" is the most appropriate term to use today with regard to disciplining children. 

I disagree with you, Az, that spanking children teaches them violence.  In fact, there is increasing evidence that spanking coupled with instruction, is effective in behavior modification (for lack of a better term).  Studies have also shown that parents who do not regularly discipline their children have trouble with authority and frequently get into a lot of trouble.  In fact, children who are not disciplined by their parents often intentionally get into trouble just so they can be disciplined.

As far as this Muslim clreic goes.  I think it's safe to say that he's preaching from what the Koran says.  To me this just places the Koran and the Bible and the Koran further apart in terms of truth and light.  The God I serve would never tell me to beat my wife.

I had the rod (literal, as in switch, belt paddle, and moms favorite, the spatula) set to my back side many times........

do I regret doing things that caused that rod to be planted, yes, i sure did.....

did I make the same mistake twice? in some cases, yes, most cases, NO WAY.....

did I ever get one i did not desearve? yep, sure did, but then again, there were many many many times i didnt get a whippin when i did desearve one....

now, looking back, i see where if i had not been corrected, i would have been building a habit, or life style that would have ended me up in jail or dead......

do I blame my dad, and mom for any of the spankings or whipping???? no way, i brought each and every one on my self, they were only the administrators of the punishment...... did they do it in anger? there might have been anger at times, but afterwards, when it was done, they were still my mom and dad, and they still loved me as much as before if not more.......

you know, it hurts me more to spank my kids then what it hurts them..... breaks my heart to have to correct them..... cause it makes us parents feel that we have not done every thing we were suppose to do, makes us feel as though we have failed......

Thank You Jesus for bringing us freedom from the penalties of death......

mike

Mike you said it.

LT