Is homosexuality genetic?

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

I sort of have to agree with Trinity, but I would include all the verses from Romans 1:18-32.

I have examined "nature" and by it, I would not be able to tell which behavior of sexuality is the appropriate.

There are animals which can "become" the opposite sex and is triggered by the lack of that opposite sex in their particular group.

There are animals which are basically sexless and need no "mate" in order to reproduce.

There are animals which fornicate with both sexes.

I had a rabbit some time back that chased our cat around all the time, wanting to do the impossible, and sometimes succeeded, or at least he thought.

We also have hermorphrodites and we have those with extra X (?) chromosomes in their DNA creating male characteristics in females. These may be relatively rare, but they exist none the less.

So by observing nature, it would be a difficult decision to make. However, in the above verses, we see that "When they KNEW God", they neither glorified Him or honored Him. So it was God who set the standards of our behavior and like all sin (which is against God), men/women have turned their back to God and thus denied Him, nor have they passed on the knowledge of Him to their progeny. We can see that with Adam and Eve, that THEY passed on God's instructions and knowledge to their kids, and it was up to them to obey or not.

To deliver (or be delivered) from a particular sin, it must first be identified as such, and God is the ONLY One, whom we can TRUST to deliver to us the TRUTH, and that will always be through Christ (the Living Word).

So even though we have a corrupted nature with a propensity towards every kind of evil, there is a WAY of delivery from it, but one must first recognize it, THEN repent of it and be delivered. To continue to practice ANY sin is an afront to God, but the sin of homosexuality is particularly bad because it is what DEFILES the Temple of God which we are. Think of going into Zion the Temple of God and committing a sexual act on the altar. This is what many of the ancient religions did and it was considered an "abomination" to God.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Born2BFree]

Homosexuality is a Spirit.

What people 'do' with this spirit is often

called 'genetics'.

If a person is troubled by any spirit that

is opposed to the Word of God... they need

to pray for strength to resist the lying influence

of Saten who has the task of confusing people

about what is True.

Its more important to believe what God's Word says you are...

than to believe what you think you know about yourself.

"Feelings come and feelings go... but feelings are confusing.

I'll base my Faith on the Word of God. NOTHING else is worth believing."

Faith is not a feeling. The faith given us by Jesus Christ is MUCH MORE

than a 'feeling'. It is the rock bottom Truth.

[Born2BFree]

Having taken on the 'nature' of Jesus Christ it would appear the most natural state of being is celebacy. Otherwise, God made woman for man. If a person has sexual feelings for members of their own sex, then they have a basic confusion that God can correct. He can heal the wound that results in the perversion of affections. However, it is not a sin for a man to LOVE (agapa) a man. Real love is self sacrificing. If you really love someone you will want to point them to Jesus who is the fount of the highest form of love possible to human beings.

[Guest LightLink]

hmm...Like Dad Ernie said, by observing nature, it is a difficult thing to say, whether homosexuality is genetic or not.

I would say that it is. Homosexuality exists in other non-human animals, and, interestingly enough, seems to sprout up more often when there is a high population in the area.

In humans, certain races seem to have homosexual tendencies. Mexicans seem to be like this. (dont think im racist, I am mexican). Greeks (obviously, given their history) are like this too.

As for homosexuals deciding they dont want to be gay anymore, I feel thats just as wrong, as to say that a heterosexual can "choose" to be gay. To most heteralsexuals, it would be a perversion, a horrible act, to fornicate with the same sex, as they have no attraction to it. The opposite is true for homosexuals. Making a homosexual heterosexual, would probably put immence psycological strain on the person.

"Gay Marriage" is an oxymoron. We need to maintain the sanctity of marriage.

You cant protect what doest exist. Sanctity of marriage no longer exists, and in reality never did. Non christians marry, athiests marry, every religion marrys, and nobody says anything about them. Also, it seems to be a purely christian thing to appose gay marriage. Or republic thing...whichever. I dont see too many buddhists going against it.

[His son]

Greetings,

I sort of have to agree with Trinity, but I would include all the verses from Romans 1:18-32.

I have examined "nature" and by it, I would not be able to tell which behavior of sexuality is the appropriate.

There are animals which can "become" the opposite sex and is triggered by the lack of that opposite sex in their particular group.

There are animals which are basically sexless and need no "mate" in order to reproduce.

There are animals which fornicate with both sexes.

I had a rabbit some time back that chased our cat around all the time, wanting to do the impossible, and sometimes succeeded, or at least he thought.

We also have hermorphrodites and we have those with extra X (?) chromosomes in their DNA creating male characteristics in females. These may be relatively rare, but they exist none the less.

So by observing nature, it would be a difficult decision to make. However, in the above verses, we see that "When they KNEW God", they neither glorified Him or honored Him. So it was God who set the standards of our behavior and like all sin (which is against God), men/women have turned their back to God and thus denied Him, nor have they passed on the knowledge of Him to their progeny. We can see that with Adam and Eve, that THEY passed on God's instructions and knowledge to their kids, and it was up to them to obey or not.

To deliver (or be delivered) from a particular sin, it must first be identified as such, and God is the ONLY One, whom we can TRUST to deliver to us the TRUTH, and that will always be through Christ (the Living Word).

So even though we have a corrupted nature with a propensity towards every kind of evil, there is a WAY of delivery from it, but one must first recognize it, THEN repent of it and be delivered. To continue to practice ANY sin is an afront to God, but the sin of homosexuality is particularly bad because it is what DEFILES the Temple of God which we are. Think of going into Zion the Temple of God and committing a sexual act on the altar. This is what many of the ancient religions did and it was considered an "abomination" to God.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

On this one I'm afraid your way out there in left field. It doesn't make any difference what animals do, that has nothing to do with man. God created them male, and female created He them. Christian scientists have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the genetic claim is an outright lie fabricated by homosexual scientists to try to gain acceptance. If you are going to try to influence others on an issue you shoud be sure you get all the facts. I spent a couple of years in a rehabilitation program with several homosexuals in that group. What I discovered, and it proved out in their conduct after completion of the program was that those who had no intention of changing were the most selfcentered egotistical people I had ever met. The ones who have no desire or intention of changing are true atheists. The only belief they have is what they want at this moment. There were those who decided that they were wrong in their choices, and they were able to change their lives just like any other group of sinners. If you believe that lie then you have to believe that God's creation is perfect at it's beginning, which is the whole of The Bibles teaching.

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings His Son,

Where did I say that we are GENETICALLY DISPOSED to Homosexuality? Did you even read my post, and I quote:

However, in the above verses, we see that "When they KNEW God", they neither glorified Him or honored Him. So it was God who set the standards of our behavior and like all sin (which is against God), men/women have turned their back to God and thus denied Him, nor have they passed on the knowledge of Him to their progeny. We can see that with Adam and Eve, that THEY passed on God's instructions and knowledge to their kids, and it was up to them to obey or not.

Your anecdotal experience is just that. If you want the TRUTH, read the scriptures.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[His son]

Greetings His Son,

Where did I say that we are GENETICALLY DISPOSED to Homosexuality? Did you even read my post, and I quote:

However, in the above verses, we see that "When they KNEW God", they neither glorified Him or honored Him. So it was God who set the standards of our behavior and like all sin (which is against God), men/women have turned their back to God and thus denied Him, nor have they passed on the knowledge of Him to their progeny. We can see that with Adam and Eve, that THEY passed on God's instructions and knowledge to their kids, and it was up to them to obey or not.

Your anecdotal experience is just that. If you want the TRUTH, read the scriptures.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

Is my face ever red? I do apologize for that error. Hope you can forgive me. I should have checked what you were agreeing with.

[keslc]

May I direct people to read this discussion as well on the subject? just if you'd like to read some more input.

is it sin discussion

[hmh]

It started with Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Homosexuality is a sin, bottom line. There is nothing genetic about it. There are case studies where people who were homosexual through treatment, were able to turn away from that sin. The 700 Club did a story on this subject. The bottom line is that it is a spirit that has convinced people that they are gay. Through good, Christian therpy homosexuals that want to change can. There is an ever increasing satanic influence in chruches today that is corrupting these organizations that being homosexual is not only acceptable, but also what the Word of God stated about homosexuality is being supressed. Now that the gay community is demanding special treatment in the form of hate crimes legislation, gay marriages, and preferential treatment in certain employment cases, this ideological madness is spreading like a cancer across the country. If someone wants to be gay, that's their business. But don't shove it down my throat demanding that I have to give homage or accept their lifestyle. I don't think they want to give homage or accept my choice in lifestyle and belief system. If I attempted to do that, then I would be considered the "bad guy" and lose my job for it. :sam: :prayer

[Born2BFree]

It is astonishing to discover the good that has been accomplished by 'homosexual' scientists... that has resulted in benifit to the rest of us.