disappear

[asper]

Why did tongues disappear for well over a thousand years and then suddenly reappear?

Is there some indication in Scripture that this would happen?

[asper]

I was not around back then........ so that is just a big who knows... there is a scripture reference though that some apply to the dark times when the Word was hid.

care to elaborate?

[asper]

^{hi mike, if i were to guess, these passages are to the nation israel. and this verse would explain them.}

^{Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.}

^{here is a link about john lake,}

^{http://www.letusreas...g/Popteac41.htm}

[OneLight]

Why did tongues disappear for well over a thousand years and then suddenly reappear?

Is there some indication in Scripture that this would happen?

We have no timetable as to when the gifts stopped in the body, but I would guess it was when man took over the church and kicked God out. That started around 300 AD, give or take a few years.

[nebula]

I've heard that the gifts never ceased; it was just difficult to find those who practiced them. But once in a while you can see their appearance in the historical writings.

[asper]

Why did tongues disappear for well over a thousand years and then suddenly reappear?

Is there some indication in Scripture that this would happen?

We have no timetable as to when the gifts stopped in the body, but I would guess it was when man took over the church and kicked God out. That started around 300 AD, give or take a few years.

hi onelight,

i have searched for this but there are many groups that are putting up conflicting information. if i find anything i'll let you know

[asper]

I've heard that the gifts never ceased; it was just difficult to find those who practiced them. But once in a while you can see their appearance in the historical writings.

i don't remember anyone ever telling me that but if you could find a source then let me know.

[The_Patriot21]

some of us are skeptical if they actually re-appeared or not. . .

[asper]

One reason for them being an emphatic event at the beginning was to 'match' the end of the confusion of Babel. The one language and religion was broken up into many. At Pentecost this was 'resolved' because the one transcultural Gospel had occurred, and was being explained. All the visitors to the feast at Jerusalem returned home and the message was thus kick-started.

I'm just as glad there is modern medicine today as that there are translators. Lots of people have been helped by these. I think there are a few documented cases of people 'hearing in their own language' what a Christian was preaching in another, but by and large we have would Lewis calls 'natural miracles' in both realms (When you look at some language differences it really is a miracle that we can cross any of them!). The natural miracle in medicine is a discovery that stops polio; in language, the right phrase to communicate that debt is cleared up, etc., in another language.

I'm not aware of the miraculous form re-emerging. There is the subjective form that is done without any foreigners in the picture, and I doubt the use of it, but don't forbid it, because it seems to have happened at Corinth, even though Paul explained pretty carefully that it was not what they thought.

I figure if Don Richardson can pray for years to communicate to the Maori and put together a NT for them, and God never gives him the effortless manifestation of Pentecost, it wasn't meant to be. I have a hard time not thinking of him as being in the Spirit at some point in all those years! It's up to the Spirit, isn't it?

--Inter

hi interplanner, great post.

1 Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

can this be taken two ways?

[Fez]

Well, As OneLight said................ I believe by the Holy Spirit, and just knowing something "Seems" right that the scriptures is referring to the time when the Word was not in any ones hand, but in the hands of Rome. Men gave their life to Bring the light of the Word back to the World. Now I am just saying that when I read those verses I get a witness as that is what is being refereed to.

some of us are skeptical if they actually re-appeared or not. . .

After some heavy computer calculations with my awesome computer, and waiting 3 days for the answer to finally print out. I can now confirm that God never changed, the Holy Spirit never changed, and The gifts are alive and well.

Jesus Is Lord.