Mormonism...

[damo1]

I have a few questions...I wasn't sure where to post this topic. I have witnessed to Mormons before, but I am at a loss. You would think that just showing them the evidence of their faulty religion would be enough to get them to investigate the history of their church and realize that it is false doctrine. But they don't. I tell them stuff they don't even know (about their religion), yet they irrationally stick to their beliefs.

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

What is an effective way to witness to them?

God bless,

Natalie

I don't know if there is any easy way to convert a Mormon, but I did stump one. I have read a fair amount of the Book of Mormon, and I could tell that what they are teaching today doesn't even agree with the book they promote. Apparently, the Latter Day Saints doctrine is based on later writings of Joseph Smith? What I did was go to the Mormon's official web-site, and into the chat room. I started asking questions about their beliefs and why they didn't match up with the Book of Mormon? The representative got so frustrated, he admitted he wasn't able to answer my questions, and asked me to come back on another day to talk to someone else. I don't know if that guy was effected to the point of changing his beliefs, but he had to wonder about the contradictions.

It is not the fact the Mormons have an additional book they consider scripture that makes the Latter Day Saints church obviously false, but the fact that Joseph Smith changed a lot of things that it says in the Book of Mormon later on in additional writings, and that is what the Latter Day Saints hold to today. The Book of Mormon actually comes against polygamy, yet Joseph Smith promoted polygamy and had many wives. That is what I focus on when I talk to a Mormon. I probably should re-familiarize myself with the Book of Mormon, and complete it, but it is so obviously a work of fiction, it is a waste of time except for witnessing purposes.

Hi

i would be intrested in anything you have as i tend to run into a lot off American mormons in my wifes country their is a morman church planted in negross occidental la castellana we live in cabacungan which is only 2 hours from la castellana

what i notice is filipinos do not like to challange or confront these cults that have been in the philippines for some time

i have gone over their doctrine also read their bible and burnt it what i notice is when you begin to question a morman on the way they were taught by their leaders they tend to love beating around the bush never do you get an honest answer i remember one female told me to go to hell i guess i had her thinking

hear is where i could not get a straight forward answer even the two americans mormans i was talking to on the jepnee

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

(Revelation 22:18-19 ESV)

my partner gets nerves when i challange a morman i try my best to explaine why i do this and have warned my wife and mother in law not to listen to what they have to say what i notice with the mormans is this they tend to target filipinos who have had no education or can not read as their are a lot off filipinos who have had not had the oppertunity to go to school like we have or learn to read

i am very patient when it comes to debating with a morman i tend to ask the spirit to guide me i tend to do this with out the morman not noticing i am asking the spirit to guide me

I didn't come at the Mormon representative like I was trying to attack him. I came to him like I wanted to know more about his church, so I asked him a series of questions concerning contradicions between the Book of Mormon and the teachings of the Latter Day Saints. He beat around the bush too, and told me I should pray as to whether the book of Mormon was true? I persisted in asking questions, and showed him verses from the Book Of Mormon that contradicts their teachings. Again, I did this like a person interested in his church, so he was more open to answering me. Had I come attacking him, he likely would have cut me off immediately? I know I created doubt in his mind, and that was my objective.

Here is the problem. If you simply added the Book of Mormon to scripture, you might actually be able to be a Christian. The Book of Mormon recognizes the diety of Christ. I am in no wise endorsing it. You can tell it is a work of fiction, plus the use of Old Testament scripture. Joseph Smith changed his doctrine after completing it, and wrote additional things the Latter Day Saints use today that make them a full blown cult. I even asked the representative if it was possible the Book of Mormon was inspired, but Joseph Smith became an apostate late in life, and this didn't go over very well. He didn't get mad, because he thought I was interested in their church, but he was very defensive of Joseph Smith. It is all in how you handle it. Find out where the Latter Day Saints and the Book Of Mormon are at odds and you will find all kinds of open doors to create doubt and confusion.

HI

this is what i notice as well how deffensive they are i never come across as wanting to attack them i tend to listen as you can not avoid them in my wifes country even on the jepnees you can not avoid them as they notice your a foreigner and begin to strike up a conversation as foreigners tend to stand out

i always start off by how long have you been a morman how long are you here for and then the fun begins i am always refreshing my self when it comes to their doctrine but will not attend one off there services

i tend to share how i became a christian as what i find funny is how they tend to freak out i have tattoos and because i am not a white male they tend to ask what country i was born in i am croatian was born in osijek my brother still lives in osijek and my aunty lives in zagreb

they know a lot about the old yugoslavia which is no longer known as the old yugoslavia

one morman said to me how can i be a christian with the tattoos i have which has me laughing i guess i can see why they target the ones that have had no education

[damo1]

I have a few questions...I wasn't sure where to post this topic. I have witnessed to Mormons before, but I am at a loss. You would think that just showing them the evidence of their faulty religion would be enough to get them to investigate the history of their church and realize that it is false doctrine. But they don't. I tell them stuff they don't even know (about their religion), yet they irrationally stick to their beliefs.

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

What is an effective way to witness to them?

God bless,

Natalie

I don't know if there is any easy way to convert a Mormon, but I did stump one. I have read a fair amount of the Book of Mormon, and I could tell that what they are teaching today doesn't even agree with the book they promote. Apparently, the Latter Day Saints doctrine is based on later writings of Joseph Smith? What I did was go to the Mormon's official web-site, and into the chat room. I started asking questions about their beliefs and why they didn't match up with the Book of Mormon? The representative got so frustrated, he admitted he wasn't able to answer my questions, and asked me to come back on another day to talk to someone else. I don't know if that guy was effected to the point of changing his beliefs, but he had to wonder about the contradictions.

It is not the fact the Mormons have an additional book they consider scripture that makes the Latter Day Saints church obviously false, but the fact that Joseph Smith changed a lot of things that it says in the Book of Mormon later on in additional writings, and that is what the Latter Day Saints hold to today. The Book of Mormon actually comes against polygamy, yet Joseph Smith promoted polygamy and had many wives. That is what I focus on when I talk to a Mormon. I probably should re-familiarize myself with the Book of Mormon, and complete it, but it is so obviously a work of fiction, it is a waste of time except for witnessing purposes.

Hi

i would be intrested in anything you have as i tend to run into a lot off American mormons in my wifes country their is a morman church planted in negross occidental la castellana we live in cabacungan which is only 2 hours from la castellana

what i notice is filipinos do not like to challange or confront these cults that have been in the philippines for some time

i have gone over their doctrine also read their bible and burnt it what i notice is when you begin to question a morman on the way they were taught by their leaders they tend to love beating around the bush never do you get an honest answer i remember one female told me to go to hell i guess i had her thinking

hear is where i could not get a straight forward answer even the two americans mormans i was talking to on the jepnee

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

(Revelation 22:18-19 ESV)

my partner gets nerves when i challange a morman i try my best to explaine why i do this and have warned my wife and mother in law not to listen to what they have to say what i notice with the mormans is this they tend to target filipinos who have had no education or can not read as their are a lot off filipinos who have had not had the oppertunity to go to school like we have or learn to read

i am very patient when it comes to debating with a morman i tend to ask the spirit to guide me i tend to do this with out the morman not noticing i am asking the spirit to guide me

You seem pretty brave! It is scary sometimes to witness to them, they do beat around the bush alot! They always say "that is a good question, I can get back to you on that, can I come over tomorrow?"

I have asked them about that verse about not taking out or adding anything to the Bible, but they believe that the Bible isn't accurate anyways so they can't even trust that verse.

There are a couple of mormons in my classes in college and they ask me questions about my christian faith, one guy asked me what do I do after I sin, how do I atone for that sin, I told him my sins have been pardoned by Jesus Christ, He bought and payed for me with His blood, so I put my faith in Him and He cancels my debt. He kept asking it again because he didn't understand that I didn't have to do certain things. I left him baffled I guess!

We have alot of mormons here, I heard my town is the 2nd largest mormon town after Salt Lake City Utah. I am cornered by them, literally! They live next to me and across from me. Most of the time I can't even tell who is mormon because they are so...worldly.

Anyways, Thank you everyone for the advice and input, great suggestion!

Shalom,

Natalie

Hi born again

not really i know were you are coming from as this is what has me dumb founded to why so many are wanting to be in a third world country were they think they are doing the lords work which you can see why they are their

its like this also in canberra as i support my wife and daughter and mother in law when i get some time off from work i tend to spend at least a month with my wife as i tend to work through the holidays i should be in the philippines know spending christmas and new year with my wife and daughter but i am here in canberra will be planning to travell in august to spend some time with my wife and daughter

i just love witnessing to these guys its all due to the way i was taught by my pastor and the people that took me in i mentor troubled young males and had helped set up a community foot patrol in the small country town i use to live in

my pastor got me out off my comfort zones and would always take me to dickson and civic on friday nights our church holds an open night church service in civic

i always have two mormans stop and talk to me when i am waiting to get the bus to work i see the same as i see in my wifes country a lot off american mormans in canberra

[bornagain2011]

LOL! A mormon asked you how could you be a christian with tats? Too funny! We can have tats if we want, but the Bible talks about not marking our bodies up, but it doesn't mean that if we do we aren't still saved by Jesus' sacrifice! I have tats from before I was a christian.

I like your approach, talk to them first and ask them questions, I should try that. Usually they talk first and keep going and then I cut right to the chase and start telling them about the holes in their religion. But maybe I should make them think I might be interested that way they don't get too defensive. I think they know not to come to my door anymore because the last time they did we have an hour long debate session where one of them got a bit defensive.

[bornagain2011]

Found this video on youtube, I really like the way Ray Comfort witnesses to people...

[damo1]

LOL! A mormon asked you how could you be a christian with tats? Too funny! We can have tats if we want, but the Bible talks about not marking our bodies up, but it doesn't mean that if we do we aren't still saved by Jesus' sacrifice! I have tats from before I was a christian.

I like your approach, talk to them first and ask them questions, I should try that. Usually they talk first and keep going and then I cut right to the chase and start telling them about the holes in their religion. But maybe I should make them think I might be interested that way they don't get too defensive. I think they know not to come to my door anymore because the last time they did we have an hour long debate session where one of them got a bit defensive.

Hi

yes that is what i find funny like you these tattoos were their before i became a christian but may be i should not lead them on its sort off my pastors fault and my fault as i tend to like to play around have them thinking i do not know nothing about them

my pastor was an army chaplin when he took over our church it had only 30 people from 30 it grew to one of the biggest churches in canberra we have also a bible college own a bus that is used on friday and saturday nights have two sister churches planted he does not believe in keeping pews warm he encourages new christians like my self to use the gifts god has given us and you are encouraged to were your not just playing church or keeping a pew warm

its sort off my pastors fault when i go witnessing with him and he spots bible college students fresh out off bible college he gets me to play along lead them into thinking they are really witnessing to some one who has never heard the gospel i do not like being told because you have tattoos how can you be a christian religon tends to destroy what god wants to do in our lives

i see this in my wifes country how religon has almost destroyed her country to the point were the catholic church is not willing to work with the new president

Philippines OKs divisive contraceptives bill

MANILA, Philippines—Philippine legislators passed a landmark bill Monday that would provide government funding for contraceptives and sexuality classes in schools despite strong opposition by the dominant Roman Catholic Church and its followers, some of whom threatened to ask the Supreme Court to block the legislation "The Catholic church has steadfastly opposed the (reproductive health) bill for 13 years," said Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, a key proponent. "But I humbly submit this afternoon that there is no force more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

never have i seen were religon has had so much of a say in a third world country like my wifes something needs to be done not judging just sharing what i am noticing in my wifes country when it comes to religon and the excuses i tend to hear

that is the only way i know off how to make a mormon comfterball yet i always laugh when i hear a morman say how can you be a christian lol

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i dont even know what to say! they are dominated by their church elders and are threatened with public banishment from the church and shame and such so a lot of the time that smile they smear on their face is one of fear. mormonism is a polytheistic cult. and its based in freeemasonry as well according to many ex freemasons and ex mormons. and if you do the research there are many many parallells between the two. even their initiation ceremonies are almost verbatim.

but anyways like all people we are deceived and lost without Christ so we need to preach gospel to them all the same way. provide the good news, ask "jesus-like" questions to provoke doubt in their belief system, allow the Holy Spirit to soften their hearts ans pray! no-one is beyond saving. some of the most hard core satanists have turned to God some of the most vile war lords have repented. now it is also important to understand their belief system in order to better give an answer. like when evangelizing to muslims, there is much talk about dominance in islam and submission. also there is no gurantee for paradise unless you martyr yourself killing jews. so there is no personal relationship with allah. many muslims crave that and find christianity appealing. anyways...

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