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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

Edited December 20, 2012 by GoldenEagle
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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.Acts 2:38

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Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. Acts 8:35-38

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And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Acts 10:42-48

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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

Welcome to Worthy.

This passage in Ephesians below points to the fact that once a person hears the truth of the Gospel and believes in Jesus Christ that person is sealed with God's promised Holy Spirit.

Eph. 1:13-14

13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

God bless,

GE

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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

We attain the Holy Spirit through Christ; In John 14 Christ promises us the Holy Spirit, not through being baptized, but He says this "If you love Me and keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper to help you and be with you forever." Not because of anything we have done, or anything that we can do but because of whom God is. Not only did He love us enough and send His son to bear our sins; but He also delivers us a Helper, to guide us in truth, to bring us through the darkness of this cruel world. How great is our God!

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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

We attain the Holy Spirit through Christ; In John 14 Christ promises us the Holy Spirit, not through being baptized, but He says this "If you love Me and keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper to help you and be with you forever." Not because of anything we have done, or anything that we can do but because of whom God is. Not only did He love us enough and send His son to bear our sins; but He also delivers us a Helper, to guide us in truth, to bring us through the darkness of this cruel world. How great is our God!

Read John 14 VERY carefully. Jesus was talking to His apostles. What will you do with Acts 2:38? "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

Welcome to Worthy.

This passage in Ephesians below points to the fact that once a person hears the truth of the Gospel and believes in Jesus Christ that person is sealed with God's promised Holy Spirit.

Eph. 1:13-14

13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

God bless,

GE

Eph.1:13,14 was written to those who were already Christians, the Ephesians had already been baptized. Acts 2:38 reads: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." In vs. 36 those on Pentecost were told to believe and vs. 37 verifies their belief saying "they were pricked in their hearts", and then vs. 38 follows with repentance+baptism=remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2 was to those not yet Christians, Ephesians was to those already Christians. It begins with hearing the word, belief of it, repentance of sin then baptism for the remissin of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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Eph.1:13,14 was written to those who were already Christians, the Ephesians had already been baptized. Acts 2:38 reads: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." In vs. 36 those on Pentecost were told to believe and vs. 37 verifies their belief saying "they were pricked in their hearts", and then vs. 38 follows with repentance+baptism=remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2 was to those not yet Christians, Ephesians was to those already Christians. It begins with hearing the word, belief of it, repentance of sin then baptism for the remissin of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

But water baptism does not always precede the receiving of the Holy Spirit.

Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

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One receives the Holy Spirit when baptized, Acts 2:38

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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.Acts 2:38

Any Man

Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. Acts 8:35-38

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And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Acts 10:42-48

Hi --I really don't understand your conclusion

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Eph.1:13,14 was written to those who were already Christians, the Ephesians had already been baptized. Acts 2:38 reads: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." In vs. 36 those on Pentecost were told to believe and vs. 37 verifies their belief saying "they were pricked in their hearts", and then vs. 38 follows with repentance+baptism=remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2 was to those not yet Christians, Ephesians was to those already Christians. It begins with hearing the word, belief of it, repentance of sin then baptism for the remissin of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

But water baptism does not always precede the receiving of the Holy Spirit.

Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 10:48 (Cornelius) is the only time the Holy Spirit was received before water baptism. Acts 10 and 11 record the conversion of Cornelius the 1st gentile convert. The baptism of the Spirit was given on that occasion to convince the Jew that the gentile was to be included in the scheme of redemption. BTW, there are measures of the Spirit and that of Acts 10,11 is not the same measure as Acts 2:38

God bless

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Acts 10:48 (Cornelius) is the only time the Holy Spirit was received before water baptism. Acts 10 and 11 record the conversion of Cornelius the 1st gentile convert. The baptism of the Spirit was given on that occasion to convince the Jew that the gentile was to be included in the scheme of redemption. BTW, there are measures of the Spirit and that of Acts 10,11 is not the same measure as Acts 2:38

God bless

You move into the area of adding to scripture with such conclusions as the scripture does not declare what you have here. I merely showed you from scripture that water baptism does not always precede the receiving of the Holy Spirit. I received the Spirit long before I was ever baptized. Are you declaring that I and others like me did not?