ayin jade Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2013 And, as for getting my gun, does the phrase "out of my cold dead hands" ring any bells? You know, in reading this thread, I was able to think of a situation that could pursuade americans to surrender their guns. Imagine if you would, a one payer health care system, which we have seen isnt far fetched. One of the criteria by which the cost of health care to you, or the basis on which you receive health care, is determined by whether or not you own guns. If your costs skyrocket when you own a gun, or plummet when you do not have a gun, then many americans can be pursuaded to give up their guns. It could apply since guns = injuries = needing treatment = cost increase in health care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2013 And, as for getting my gun, does the phrase "out of my cold dead hands" ring any bells? You know, in reading this thread, I was able to think of a situation that could pursuade americans to surrender their guns. Imagine if you would, a one payer health care system, which we have seen isnt far fetched. One of the criteria by which the cost of health care to you, or the basis on which you receive health care, is determined by whether or not you own guns. If your costs skyrocket when you own a gun, or plummet when you do not have a gun, then many americans can be pursuaded to give up their guns. It could apply since guns = injuries = needing treatment = cost increase in health care. In true American style....I believe most of us wouldn't register them and would go underground with those already in our possession. Remember what happened when the feds outlawed liquor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2013 And, as for getting my gun, does the phrase "out of my cold dead hands" ring any bells? You know, in reading this thread, I was able to think of a situation that could pursuade americans to surrender their guns. Imagine if you would, a one payer health care system, which we have seen isnt far fetched. One of the criteria by which the cost of health care to you, or the basis on which you receive health care, is determined by whether or not you own guns. If your costs skyrocket when you own a gun, or plummet when you do not have a gun, then many americans can be pursuaded to give up their guns. It could apply since guns = injuries = needing treatment = cost increase in health care. That is exactly why they've instituted it the way that they have sis. If you do not live the way that they want you to you will be penalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 From the accounts you've read. The only reason they singled Koresh out was because he had guns. Not because he was a religious wacko......They broke the walls down with TANKS. And they did so because people inside had guns and they didn't want them to have guns. You seem to forget that the main reason Janet Reno gave the order to go in, was because of the reports of former cult members who told the Justice Dept. (correctly) that David Koresh was sexually abusing underage girls. I do agree that they could have nabbed him on the street, but didn't because they wanted to flex their muscles. But even so, the full blame for the deaths of those cult members rests on the shoulders of Koresh alone. HE brainwashed them, HE abused them, and HE refused to let them go. It was Koresh who kept breaking his word about when he would come out. HE was the one who decided their fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I hear all kinds of reports on waco. Fact of the matter is, Koresh was begging for a fight, he really was, and he chose to not only have innocent women and children on his compound-but to mix his fighting men in with the women and children, essentially making them targets. Was reno a bit trigger happy, and probably respond with to much force? yes, probably, but koresh was no freedom fighting angel-he was, just a wee bit wacky. C/Ts try to spin it a lot of ways, reality is it was just a messed up situation, people need to learn, ya there may be more to a lot of things out there-but there is NOT a conspiracy around every single corner, and some, like this one, need to just die, its ancient history. Time to focus on the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G23 Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/08/1985 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) You all make very good points. The more I hear about the government taking away guns the more I think about the sheep being led to the slaughter. So my question is... would the government really do that to their people? I'm starting to think they would so they can try to control us and make us do whatever they want, and possibly threaten to kill us... The bible does say that things will get really bad when we're close to the end. Edited January 6, 2013 by G23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted January 6, 2013 g23, what makes you think they wouldnt? history repeats itself. Lets look back at every ancient empire. Persia, Babylon, Egypt, Rome. Lets look at more recent, Hitler, Stalin, should I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G23 Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/08/1985 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You're absolutely right... I mean I'd like to think that since those are "other" countries and America claims to be all about "freedom", that they wouldn't do it here, but... America is just as bad as they are... they're trying harder and harder to remove God away from this country.... and then they wonder why there's so much evil here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted January 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You're absolutely right... I mean I'd like to think that since those are "other" countries and America claims to be all about "freedom", that they wouldn't do it here, but... America is just as bad as they are... they're trying harder and harder to remove God away from this country.... and then they wonder why there's so much evil here.. I dont think were as bad as they were, yet. but we will get there, if we let the country go unchecked like it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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