The Sin That Leads to Death?

[wingnut-]

Bad company corrupts, it's more likely your cousin will drag you down than you pull him up. Sadly, sometimes we have to walk away from certain people and pray The Lord intervenes through someone else.

[JTC]

Bad company corrupts, it's more likely your cousin will drag you down than you pull him up. Sadly, sometimes we have to walk away from certain people and pray The Lord intervenes through someone else.

I agree with you. But John was telling us there's 1 sin we shouldn't even pray for. It could be that praying for it will simply attract the evil beings my cousin associates with to me, and it won't help him. This has been going on over 20 years. He likes being in touch with these beings. But me, I want nothing to do with them. And if he committed the sin John is referring to, I want nothing to do with him.

[wingnut-]

Bad company corrupts, it's more likely your cousin will drag you down than you pull him up. Sadly, sometimes we have to walk away from certain people and pray The Lord intervenes through someone else.

I agree with you. But John was telling us there's 1 sin we shouldn't even pray for. It could be that praying for it will simply attract the evil beings my cousin associates with to me, and it won't help him. This has been going on over 20 years. He likes being in touch with these beings. But me, I want nothing to do with them. And if he committed the sin John is referring to, I want nothing to do with him.

Reading through the thread I would certainly agree with that sin being blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, I know there are different opinions on what precisely that is considering we are not given a clear definition in scripture.

[Guest]

.... Only the true saints are born of God. Sinners don't know who they are....

Nah Nah

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:35

[Guest]

That's because Christian sinners are not sin free saints and when they quote scriptures as liars instead of saints, other sinners can see that they are hypocrites. Other sinners won't obey hypocrites but may listen to a true saint who speaks for God, if they are true believers, chosen by our Creator to hear Him.

Nah Nah

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

Huh Huh

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:15-17

[xero]

Bad company corrupts, it's more likely your cousin will drag you down than you pull him up. Sadly, sometimes we have to walk away from certain people and pray The Lord intervenes through someone else.

I agree with you. But John was telling us there's 1 sin we shouldn't even pray for. It could be that praying for it will simply attract the evil beings my cousin associates with to me, and it won't help him. This has been going on over 20 years. He likes being in touch with these beings. But me, I want nothing to do with them. And if he committed the sin John is referring to, I want nothing to do with him.

Reading through the thread I would certainly agree with that sin being blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, I know there are different opinions on what precisely that is considering we are not given a clear definition in scripture.

Mark 3:28 "Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 30Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is saying the Holy Spirit is unclean: a demon or of the devil.

[JTC]

I see almost none of you wants to help me much with this, and I can't blame you. It's a fearsome thing to say someone has committed the unforgivable sin. So I'm going to have to follow the unctions I'm getting, and that means I will probably never have anything else to do with this cousin. It really is a shame, but 20+ years ago I tried and I tried to convince him he was following evil spirits, but he wouldn't listen. He likes having these things in him and around him.

We've all done bad things in our lives but if we have the Holy Spirit in us we usually will feel guilty, and at some point stop the sin. If we have the Holy Spirit within us. The man I'm talking about has no guilt nor remorse for all the bad things he has done and continues to do.

So I will just say thank you to everyone who replied.

John

[SHIROI RAKUEN]

Greetings Everyone,

I know many of you here know the Bible much better than me. So I'd like to know if anyone knows what sin John is referring to here? Forgive me for not explaining why I'm asking this. Just know that I do have a very good reason.

1 John 5:16

If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.

This is a very, very good question. In fact it is such a difficult question that a wise christian should step back and not try to answer it, in fear of speculating and then find out that he or she was wrong and accidentally led someone away from the faith. So, I'm outta this one. But if you have any other hard questions, feel free to check my profile for answers.

Blessings

Edited April 28, 2013 by SHIROI RAKUEN

[Guest]

I see almost none of you wants to help me much with this, and I can't blame you. It's a fearsome thing to say someone has committed the unforgivable sin. So I'm going to have to follow the unctions I'm getting, and that means I will probably never have anything else to do with this cousin. It really is a shame, but 20+ years ago I tried and I tried to convince him he was following evil spirits, but he wouldn't listen. He likes having these things in him and around him.

We've all done bad things in our lives but if we have the Holy Spirit in us we usually will feel guilty, and at some point stop the sin. If we have the Holy Spirit within us. The man I'm talking about has no guilt nor remorse for all the bad things he has done and continues to do.

So I will just say thank you to everyone who replied.

John

Most Walk

Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:12

And Never Turn Back

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Mark 12:24

Yet Some Will Turn Again

Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God. Jeremiah 3:22

And Run Back To Jesus

And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry. Luke 15:20-24

Praying~!

[JTC]

SHIROI, I don't know how to find your profile. I wanted to look at the other questions you posted. This question as I posted it is even harder to answer because I'm asking it in regards to a certain person. And we aren't supposed to judge others in regards to where they stand with God. I know this.

Joe, I keep waiting and hoping that my cousin would come crying back to God. But he doesn't. In fact he told me last week that I shouldn't expect him to ever forget the secret spiritual things he learned. And as much as we are not to judge each other, I had to make a decision on whether or not I would accept him into my home, even for a few hours. I decided I won't. It's not just a matter of what he believes, because I know he's wrong and I'm past the point where his ideas can harm me. It's more a matter of the spirit or spirits that are in him or around him.

What he did to his now ex-wife and his sons 20+ years ago is worse than I will write. And even though we live in different states, I have become very good friends with his ex. I still consider her family. She told me something yesterday that's pertinent to this issue. According to my cousin he did come back to God and he thinks he's full of the Holy Spirit. The point his ex made to me yesterday is he feels no guilt nor remorse for all the hurt and pain he caused, and continues to cause. So I said that's proof he didn't come back to God, and that he doesn't have the Holy Spirit in him. Because 1 of the main things the Holy Spirit does is to convict us of sin. I feel guilty even if I'm short 1 penny when I buy something. Even when the cashier say's Don't Worry About It, I still feel guilty, and if I find a penny on the ground I bring it back to the store.

So maybe someday this cousin of mine will ask Jesus to come back to him. If he does and I'm alive I think I will be able to discern that. But for now I'd rather him not come here because I'll just end up arguing with him. I believe in Jesus and the God of the Bible, and he doesn't. It's sad for me, but it's true, and my loyalty is to Jesus.