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[Matthitjah]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

What on earth are you talking about now?????

Define legitimate rape please.

[Guest Valnomi]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

What on earth are you talking about now?????

Define legitimate rape please.

Weren't you paying attention during the last election cycle. Look up Todd Akin a Republican candidate for some office in some state who said that a woman could not get pregnant from a legitimate rape.

I was trying to make a joke (probably a bad one, I assumed you were up on what happened in the 2012 election cycle).

We seem to be going in circles and it was my attempt to jump off.

[revolutionist90]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

Those Christians are wrong but how is that fitting into this conversation anyway? Are you a non-believer?

Edited May 7, 2013 by revolutionist90

[Matthitjah]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

What on earth are you talking about now?????

Define legitimate rape please.

Weren't you paying attention during the last election cycle. Look up Todd Akin a Republican candidate for some office in some state who said that a woman could not get pregnant from a legitimate rape.

I was trying to make a joke (probably a bad one, I assumed you were up on what happened in the 2012 election cycle).

We seem to be going in circles and it was my attempt to jump off.

Okay, I'm thankful that you're not one of those feminist's who state that legitimate sex between married partners amounts to rape.

We can get off the merry go round if you like.

I will stand on this though; "a fertilized egg is a human being."

[ayin jade]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

Sure they can.

You seem to dislike Christians.

[Guest Valnomi]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

What on earth are you talking about now?????

Define legitimate rape please.

Weren't you paying attention during the last election cycle. Look up Todd Akin a Republican candidate for some office in some state who said that a woman could not get pregnant from a legitimate rape.

I was trying to make a joke (probably a bad one, I assumed you were up on what happened in the 2012 election cycle).

We seem to be going in circles and it was my attempt to jump off.

Okay, I'm thankful that you're not one of those feminist's who state that legitimate sex between married partners amounts to rape.

We can get off the merry go round if you like.

I will stand on this though; "a fertilized egg is a human being."

Yes, I agree with you.

There is a morning after pill that kills a fertilized egg, but it is not this plan b pill.

Thing is I was discussing what the posted article said. It stated that the plan b pill stopped an egg from being fertilized in the first place.

[revolutionist90]

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

You do realize that this rapist/molester could buy the pill themselves anyway as they would be adults.

I also find the above part of your post disturbing? Are you a parent? If so, are any of your children daughters?

If raped and pregnant, wouldn't you rather they receive a morning after pill than go through the atrocities you describe?

I know abstinance is the answer, but that is no comfort to a rape victim. They need help, not platitudes.

I'm going to jump in and say that in the case of rape the victim would not have been found unless the authorities saw that she was pregnant.

The victim was NOT pregnant.

She was the mother of 2 teenagers that the rapist had impregnated her with. These 2 children were teenagers before the rapist was caught. He was only caught because he himself tried to convince the authorities he had figured out how to stop child molestation. He basically gave himself away, it had nothing to do with anybody being pregnant.

But her pregnancy bore two children who brought up suspicion about the couple. They saw children playing in the yard and such. Also it doesn't really say how the guy was caught.

"On the same day, Phillip Garrido went to a University of California, Berkeley police office with his two daughters, seeking permission to hold a special event on campus as a part of his "God's Desire" program. He spoke with U.C. Berkeley special events manager Lisa Campbell. She perceived his behavior as "erratic" and the girls to be "sullen and submissive." She asked him to make an appointment for the next day, which he did, leaving his name in the process. Officer Ally Jacobs discovered through a background check on Garrido that he was a registered sex offender on federal parole for kidnapping and rape."

That is how the guy was caught and the two girls offered more evidence for the officer that the guy was a creep. If the guy continuously gave Dugard plan-B the children would not have been born so their would have been less suspicion. Also what is your response to the rest of my post...do you agree that plan-B could be used by criminals to cover up rape or do you not think that? I think the rest of these post are circling around rape and how plan B could be used for rapists to evade police.

[Guest Valnomi]

According to some Christians, this whole conversation is moot. A person can not become pregnant from a legitimate rape.

Sure they can.

You seem to dislike Christians.

No i don't dislike Christians. What a horrible thing to assume, let alone say. I think it would be nice to ask someone before you made such assumptions.

I try to be aware of what is happening around me. Todd Akin was talked about heavily for weeks during the election cycle.

[Guest Valnomi]

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

You do realize that this rapist/molester could buy the pill themselves anyway as they would be adults.

I also find the above part of your post disturbing? Are you a parent? If so, are any of your children daughters?

If raped and pregnant, wouldn't you rather they receive a morning after pill than go through the atrocities you describe?

I know abstinance is the answer, but that is no comfort to a rape victim. They need help, not platitudes.

I'm going to jump in and say that in the case of rape the victim would not have been found unless the authorities saw that she was pregnant.

The victim was NOT pregnant.

She was the mother of 2 teenagers that the rapist had impregnated her with. These 2 children were teenagers before the rapist was caught. He was only caught because he himself tried to convince the authorities he had figured out how to stop child molestation. He basically gave himself away, it had nothing to do with anybody being pregnant.

But her pregnancy bore two children who brought up suspicion about the couple. They saw children playing in the yard and such. Also it doesn't really say how the guy was caught.

"On the same day, Phillip Garrido went to a University of California, Berkeleypolice office with his two daughters, seeking permission to hold a special event on campus as a part of his "God's Desire" program. He spoke with U.C. Berkeley special events manager Lisa Campbell. She perceived his behavior as "erratic" and the girls to be "sullen and submissive." She asked him to make an appointment for the next day, which he did, leaving his name in the process. Officer Ally Jacobs discovered through a background check on Garrido that he was a registered sex offender on federal parole for kidnapping and rape."

That is how the guy was caught and the two girls offered more evidence for the officer that the guy was a creep. If the guy continuously gave Dugard plan-B the children would not have been born so their would have been less suspicion. Also what is your response to the rest of my post...do you agree that plan-B could be used by criminals to cover up rape or do you not think that? I think the rest of these post are circling around rape and how plan B could be used for rapists to evade police.

I'm sorry I can not respond to all this. IMO this is in LaLa land.

I can understand and agree with the position of Matt and Ayan because they are perfectly reasonable.

But, I can not understand and no longer want to indulge the type of thinking that says it may be good for rape victims to become pregnant.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Valnomi

[revolutionist90]

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

You do realize that this rapist/molester could buy the pill themselves anyway as they would be adults.

I also find the above part of your post disturbing? Are you a parent? If so, are any of your children daughters?

If raped and pregnant, wouldn't you rather they receive a morning after pill than go through the atrocities you describe?

I know abstinance is the answer, but that is no comfort to a rape victim. They need help, not platitudes.

I'm going to jump in and say that in the case of rape the victim would not have been found unless the authorities saw that she was pregnant.

The victim was NOT pregnant.

She was the mother of 2 teenagers that the rapist had impregnated her with. These 2 children were teenagers before the rapist was caught. He was only caught because he himself tried to convince the authorities he had figured out how to stop child molestation. He basically gave himself away, it had nothing to do with anybody being pregnant.

But her pregnancy bore two children who brought up suspicion about the couple. They saw children playing in the yard and such. Also it doesn't really say how the guy was caught.

"On the same day, Phillip Garrido went to a University of California, Berkeleypolice office with his two daughters, seeking permission to hold a special event on campus as a part of his "God's Desire" program. He spoke with U.C. Berkeley special events manager Lisa Campbell. She perceived his behavior as "erratic" and the girls to be "sullen and submissive." She asked him to make an appointment for the next day, which he did, leaving his name in the process. Officer Ally Jacobs discovered through a background check on Garrido that he was a registered sex offender on federal parole for kidnapping and rape."

That is how the guy was caught and the two girls offered more evidence for the officer that the guy was a creep. If the guy continuously gave Dugard plan-B the children would not have been born so their would have been less suspicion. Also what is your response to the rest of my post...do you agree that plan-B could be used by criminals to cover up rape or do you not think that? I think the rest of these post are circling around rape and how plan B could be used for rapists to evade police.

I'm sorry I can not respond to all this. IMO this is in LaLa land.

I can understand and agree with the position of Matt and Ayan because they are perfectly reasonable.

But, I can not understand and no longer want to indulge the type of thinking that says it may be good for rape victims to become pregnant.

No one "supports" pregnancy from a rape. I don't support or think it is "good" for a victim to become pregnant during a rape. But as stated before the children brought some comfort to Dugard and they brought suspicion when the kidnapper took them to the police station. I don't think something like that is "good" but it is honestly in God hands and all that he creates is "good".

Edited May 7, 2013 by revolutionist90