Preachers today preach Christ resurrected

[thecrucifiedlife]

2 Cor. 11:14 (NIV)

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

Preachers today preach Christ resurrected a message of victory and blessings. They preach anything but the cross. When you become a Christian you are being given a death sentence, you are given a cross to slowly die on. People will believe the angel of light because the message will make sense and it will help our lives and the principles will work, but it will not lead to the cross or Jesus. Ananias and Sapphira were killed instantly for their sin but Simon the Sorcerer was just warned. Peter was freed from jail by a miracle but John the Baptist was left to die. Paul secretly escaped from persecution but Stephen was stoned to death. God does not operate according to some plan or book or law. He acts out of love and does what He wants in any given situation. We are at the mercy of God. God will not play your game, He has given you time enough to get on board with his program.

[shammah]

Greeetings crucifiedlife;

Rome decided that if you can't kill all the Christians; you join them and water down their faith, mixing it with the other religions to appease everyone!

Really Caeser created the Papal order to control all religions; a type of one world religion of it's time!

But as Caeser began to lose control as the Popes gained more control, and for many hundreds of years people wern't even allowed to have or read a bible!

Though the protestants brought freedom from the Popes dominance , and the right to read the bible, the traditions and corruptions were carried on!

Pastors are like little Popes, and when differences in doctrine came about, all the differant denominations came about; all thinking they were the true way!

Popes and Pastors were never given the right to rule over the sheep, and or to build their own kingdoms!

The true body of Christ shares their gifts and teaching, and those that have much help those that have little!

They have no true gifts in operation today in the mainline churches, and instead of each person having a gift and ministering to the body, they sit and listen to usually something that will keep the people and money coming in!

It's sad; there hardly is no one who travels the way of the crucified life; it's never taught and you will loose members of your church talking about it!

They will never realize that to live for Christ you must first die to your own will, that Christ must become first in you life and living!

Christ will almost never lead and speak to those who follow their own way, He leads and guides those who change to any direction the Lord leads!

But when the Lord searches out a heart to see that it will be obedient and die to his selfish ways, then the Lord begins to make himself known!

Most of what is going on in church is just good feelings and religiousity!

I don't post here much anymore, but I like your username and your post, not to many will agree with you here, sorry to say!

Agape; Ephraim.

[Guest Karyn]

Greeetings crucifiedlife;

Rome decided that if you can't kill all the Christians; you join them and water down their faith, mixing it with the other religions to appease everyone!

Really Caeser created the Papal order to control all religions; a type of one world religion of it's time!

But as Caeser began to lose control as the Popes gained more control, and for many hundreds of years people wern't even allowed to have or read a bible!

Though the protestants brought freedom from the Popes dominance , and the right to read the bible, the traditions and corruptions were carried on!

Pastors are like little Popes, and when differences in doctrine came about, all the differant denominations came about; all thinking they were the true way!

Popes and Pastors were never given the right to rule over the sheep, and or to build their own kingdoms!

The true body of Christ shares their gifts and teaching, and those that have much help those that have little!

They have no true gifts in operation today in the mainline churches, and instead of each person having a gift and ministering to the body, they sit and listen to usually something that will keep the people and money coming in!

It's sad; there hardly is no one who travels the way of the crucified life; it's never taught and you will loose members of your church talking about it!

They will never realize that to live for Christ you must first die to your own will, that Christ must become first in you life and living!

Christ will almost never lead and speak to those who follow their own way, He leads and guides those who change to any direction the Lord leads!

But when the Lord searches out a heart to see that it will be obedient and die to his selfish ways, then the Lord begins to make himself known!

Most of what is going on in church is just good feelings and religiousity!

I don't post here much anymore, but I like your username and your post, not to many will agree with you here, sorry to say!

Agape; Ephraim.

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Amen, I realize that the crucified life is not a popular subject, however it is one after God's own heart Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me, He also said that your bothers and mothers and fathers would be lost to you and against you, Doesn't sound like a popularity gospel does it?

The Lord said in Mat 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Sound's painful but I want to be broken not powder,

God Bless All

Edited November 11, 2004 by Karyn

[thecrucifiedlife]

Greeetings crucifiedlife;

Rome decided that if you can't kill all the Christians; you join them and water down their faith, mixing it with the other religions to appease everyone!

Really Caeser created the Papal order to control all religions; a type of one world religion of it's time!

But as Caeser began to lose control as the Popes gained more control, and for many hundreds of years people wern't even allowed to have or read a bible!

Though the protestants brought freedom from the Popes dominance , and the right to read the bible, the traditions and corruptions were carried on!

Pastors are like little Popes, and when differences in doctrine came about, all the differant denominations came about; all thinking they were the true way!

Popes and Pastors were never given the right to rule over the sheep, and or to build their own kingdoms!

The true body of Christ shares their gifts and teaching, and those that have much help those that have little!

They have no true gifts in operation today in the mainline churches, and instead of each person having a gift and ministering to the body, they sit and listen to usually something that will keep the people and money coming in!

It's sad; there hardly is no one who travels the way of the crucified life; it's never taught and you will loose members of your church talking about it!

They will never realize that to live for Christ you must first die to your own will, that Christ must become first in you life and living!

Christ will almost never lead and speak to those who follow their own way, He leads and guides those who change to any direction the Lord leads!

But when the Lord searches out a heart to see that it will be obedient and die to his selfish ways, then the Lord begins to make himself known!

Most of what is going on in church is just good feelings and religiousity!

I don't post here much anymore, but I like your username and your post, not to many will agree with you here, sorry to say!

Agape; Ephraim.

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Thanks for the post and the history. It sounds like you are one who is trying to stay on the narrow road. I went to a church tonight and although the message was supriseingly OK I always get the feeling that it is about the good feelings. People judge their Christianity on how they feel about their quiet time or a passage, it is absurd. I believe God is searching for those that want to want to obey and are willing to join in Jesus' sufferings. I am encouraged that someone else here seems to 'get it.'

You don't post here often, where do you post?

In Christ,

Matt.

[Guest Karyn]

Shammah, and Crucifiedlife,

I realize that many today want fluff and feel good gospel, but that doesn't set the captives free and cause true repentance and a newlife. It is dangerous to just let people believe that it is an easy life and God will just sail you through all of the troubles in life, grace means that we have the ability to GO THROUGH not float over the problems of life. I know of one person that just told me that Paul didn't have enough FAITH because he went through so many problems! They had been going to a church that taught that you just needed faith to blow all of the problems in your life away so that it would be a testamony to the unsaved.

Kind of scary HUH?

[thecrucifiedlife]

Shammah, and Crucifiedlife,

I realize that many today want fluff and feel good gospel, but that doesn't set the captives free and cause true repentance and a newlife.  It is dangerous to just let people believe that it is an easy life and God will just sail you through all of the troubles in life,  grace means that we have the ability to GO THROUGH not float over the problems of life.  I know of one person that just told me that Paul didn't have enough FAITH because he went through so many problems!  They had been going to a church that taught  that you just needed faith to blow all of the problems in your life away so that it would be a testamony to the unsaved.

Kind of scary HUH?

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True. If some of the Christians of today were with Jesus in the garden they would have told him that he didn't have enough faith. There is also an unwritten rule in church that if things are going wrong God must some how be against you and if you get a new job that God is blessing you, the satanic part of this is that they claim that things that are from God are from Satan and things that are from Satan are from God. Twisted.

[Guest Karyn]

[True. If some of the Christians of today were with Jesus in the garden they would have told him that he didn't have enough faith. There is also an unwritten rule in church that if things are going wrong God must some how be against you and if you get a new job that God is blessing you, the satanic part of this is that they claim that things that are from God are from Satan and things that are from Satan are from God. Twisted.

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[gypc]

Good word.........good thread!!

Thanks

[seraph]

The devil wouldn't be knockin' us down if we weren't standin' up for God.

[irishcowboy]

your right, the devil cant knock you down if you are standing for God....

in fact, if you have the Spirit in you, the devil will fleeeeeeeeeeeee.....

mike