WN: Israel has every right to defend itself against Iran - Jerusalem

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

The 6-Day war was started by Israel when they attacked The Sinai Peninsula.

 

A huge reason why I, and others are critical of Israel is because they do "act like the school ground bully" is they continually violate International Law, especially in regard to Palestine.

 

You seem to forget why the 6-day war was started

Remember the Tiran straights? Remember Abdul-Nasser's blockade of the red sea?

 

These things most likely are not mentioned in his resources. (My guess anyway.)

 

Of course I know about that. I've read plenty of work from historians of the region. What I'm looking at is there was a potential diplomatic solution to the problem, and whereas Egypt did not pose an existential threat to Israels existence, Israel annexed territory. Afterwards, they proposed only a "limited withdrawal", kind of like how Palestine is today, until they gave the Sinai back at Camp David, 16 years later. While one could justify military action to free up the blockaded ports, annexation of land is illegal under international law.

[hupo]

Those who do not wish to know will never admit facts.

These facts ruin their POV to a degree they cannot cope with.

There are few that admit they have been wrong/misled/misguided

 

I was talking to Palestinians in Lebanon during the 2006 war and got more understanding from them than some here.

They did not agree with my views but they sure understood.

Strangely enough they attacked their own Yasser Arafat more than they attacked me.

They are living right here and know what is going on as opposed to critics living in ivory towers. (that is a big HINT!)

 

My suggestion to those who think we are the school bully....

Talk to Palestinians alone, no one around, just you two, who are not afraid to speak their minds. I have. You might be surprised.

 

On second thoughts, why should you ruin a good POV?

[Burning_Ember]

Those who do not wish to know will never admit facts.

These facts ruin their POV to a degree they cannot cope with.

There are few that admit they have been wrong/misled/misguided

 

I was talking to Palestinians in Lebanon during the 2006 war and got more understanding from them than some here.

They did not agree with my views but they sure understood.

Strangely enough they attacked their own Yasser Arafat more than they attacked me.

They are living right here and know what is going on as opposed to critics living in ivory towers. (that is a big HINT!)

 

My suggestion to those who think we are the school bully....

Talk to Palestinians alone, no one around, just you two, who are not afraid to speak their minds. I have. You might be surprised.

 

On second thoughts, why should you ruin a good POV?

Did you talk to Palestinians in the West Bank, or Gaza.?

[hupo]

 

Those who do not wish to know will never admit facts.

These facts ruin their POV to a degree they cannot cope with.

There are few that admit they have been wrong/misled/misguided

 

I was talking to Palestinians in Lebanon during the 2006 war and got more understanding from them than some here.

They did not agree with my views but they sure understood.

Strangely enough they attacked their own Yasser Arafat more than they attacked me.

They are living right here and know what is going on as opposed to critics living in ivory towers. (that is a big HINT!)

 

My suggestion to those who think we are the school bully....

Talk to Palestinians alone, no one around, just you two, who are not afraid to speak their minds. I have. You might be surprised.

 

On second thoughts, why should you ruin a good POV?

Did you talk to Palestinians in the West Bank, or Gaza.?

 

Yes, I spent plenty of time in both Gaza and West bank in my time. When they are free to talk (which they are usually not) they come out with things I would never have thought

 

But don't take my word for it, try it yourself

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

Those who do not wish to know will never admit facts.

These facts ruin their POV to a degree they cannot cope with.

There are few that admit they have been wrong/misled/misguided

 

I was talking to Palestinians in Lebanon during the 2006 war and got more understanding from them than some here.

They did not agree with my views but they sure understood.

Strangely enough they attacked their own Yasser Arafat more than they attacked me.

They are living right here and know what is going on as opposed to critics living in ivory towers. (that is a big HINT!)

 

My suggestion to those who think we are the school bully....

Talk to Palestinians alone, no one around, just you two, who are not afraid to speak their minds. I have. You might be surprised.

 

On second thoughts, why should you ruin a good POV?

Did you talk to Palestinians in the West Bank, or Gaza.?

 

Yes, I spent plenty of time in both Gaza and West bank in my time. When they are free to talk (which they are usually not) they come out with things I would never have thought

 

But don't take my word for it, try it yourself

 

Sounds like a plan.

[hupo]

 

 

 

Those who do not wish to know will never admit facts.

These facts ruin their POV to a degree they cannot cope with.

There are few that admit they have been wrong/misled/misguided

 

I was talking to Palestinians in Lebanon during the 2006 war and got more understanding from them than some here.

They did not agree with my views but they sure understood.

Strangely enough they attacked their own Yasser Arafat more than they attacked me.

They are living right here and know what is going on as opposed to critics living in ivory towers. (that is a big HINT!)

 

My suggestion to those who think we are the school bully....

Talk to Palestinians alone, no one around, just you two, who are not afraid to speak their minds. I have. You might be surprised.

 

On second thoughts, why should you ruin a good POV?

Did you talk to Palestinians in the West Bank, or Gaza.?

 

Yes, I spent plenty of time in both Gaza and West bank in my time. When they are free to talk (which they are usually not) they come out with things I would never have thought

 

But don't take my word for it, try it yourself

 

Sounds like a plan.

 

OK, now this makes sense even if you end up disagreeing with me/us.

[GoldenEagle]

Closed for review.

[OneLight]

And it shall come to pass That just as you were a curse among the nations, O house of Judah and house of Israel, So I will save you, and you shall be a blessing. Do not fear, Let your hands be strong. Zechariah 8:13

[GoldenEagle]

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[nebula]

 

 What I'm looking at is there was a potential diplomatic solution to the problem, and whereas Egypt did not pose an existential threat to Israels existence, Israel annexed territory.

 

 

Perhaps, but keep in mind you are reading in hindsight from those who were not figuratively looking down the gun of the barrel pointed at them.