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God made man as an adult. Same with woman. I see no reason why He couldnt have or wouldnt have made the universe in 6 days with some age to it. 


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perspective ... our job to assemble His in place of our own by The Holy Spirit and His Word! A daunting lifetime task...   Love, Steven


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Hmm well, I don't think God is 'in' the spacetime manifold at all,so I don't think it makes sense to attribute a frame of reference to God at all. The notion that time intervals depends on your frame is certainly true though and should at least cause some pause for thought when considering what 'day' *could* mean in the context of the creation of the universe.

Yes, I think that's true. I regard the "6 days" arguments as really rather juvenile, seen from Heaven's perspective, where "24 hour days" have no meaning at all!

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Shiloh, you hadn't even posted in the thread when I wrote this. So why do you think it refers to you?

 

 

 

Because it is exactly what you accused me of in the Adam and Eve thread when I pointed out that Evolution doesn't square with God's divine attributes.  

 

 

For reference, people other than you, i.e. my intended audience, still make that argument ALL THE TIME.

 

Really, like who?   Not one creationist on this board has ever made that argument and I didn't make that arguement either.  No one has said that God is less powerful if it took longer to create the world.  You might want to assign that value to us but in 8 years, I have never seen any creationist on this board float that idea.

 


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Shiloh, you hadn't even posted in the thread when I wrote this. So why do you think it refers to you?

 

Because it is exactly what you accused me of in the Adam and Eve thread when I pointed out that Evolution doesn't square with God's divine attributes.  

 

 

For reference, people other than you, i.e. my intended audience, still make that argument ALL THE TIME.

 

Really, like who?   Not one creationist on this board has ever made that argument and I didn't make that arguement either.  No one has said that God is less powerful if it took longer to create the world.  You might want to assign that value to us but in 8 years, I have never seen any creationist on this board float that idea.

 

 

 

Not every post of mine is about you or even in reference to previous conversations I've had with you. This really looks quite bullyish and I am not going to walk around on eggshells worried that you are going to imply I am maliciously trying to refer to old debates between us.

 

The question of time implying power is a very common one:

 

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/could-god-have-created-in-six-days

 

Because God is infinite in power and wisdom, there’s no doubt He could have created the universe and its contents in no time at all, or six seconds, or six minutes, or six hours—after all, with God nothing shall be impossible (Luke 1:37).

However, the question to ask is, “Why did God take so long? Why as long as six days?” The answer is also given in Exodus 20:11, and that answer is the basis of the Fourth Commandment:

For 
in
 six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that 
is
 in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The seven-day week has no basis outside of Scripture. In this Old Testament passage, God commands His people, Israel, to work for six days and rest for one—thus giving us a reason why He deliberately took as long as six days to create everything. He set the example for man. Our week is patterned after this principle. Now if He created everything in six thousand (or six million) years, followed by a rest of one thousand or one million years, then we would have a very interesting week indeed.

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Not every post of mine is about you or even in reference to previous conversations I've had with you.

 

Never said that or implied it, but it coming off of our recent conversation, it sure looks like you were referencing our conversation and given that, my concern is valid even if you can't bring yourself to admit that.


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Not every post of mine is about you or even in reference to previous conversations I've had with you.

 

Never said that or implied it, but it coming off of our recent conversation, it sure looks like you were referencing our conversation and given that, my concern is valid even if you can't bring yourself to admit that.

 

 

Shiloh, enough of the accusations. This is getting a tad ridiculous!

 

You said this:

 

"I addressed that and I find it rather odd that you would continue to assign that value to my argument even after I addressed it, as if I had never responded to it."

 

I made it clear that my posts are not about you and you still continue to send accusations my way, claiming that I "can't bring myself to admit it".

 

Stop being brash, stop being a bully, or stop posting. Whatever happened to patience, grace and mercy? 


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Interesting George.

 

I see an idea floating around often that I don't like - that God is somehow less powerful if He took millions of years rather than 6 calendar days. As if somehow, quicker = more powerful. Hopefully this puts that idea to rest! And perhaps there is more unity to be found between the varying positions than what we realise.

 

I think George does have a good perspective on this.

 

I personally believe that God could've created the world in 6 calendar days. Yet, if God wanted to He could also have created the universe in millions of years.

 

Bottom line God is the Creator of all things and this is not a salvation issue. :thumbsup:

God bless,

GE


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Agree absolutely GE!

From God's perspective is there much difference between 6 days and 14 billion years?


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Agree absolutely GE!

From God's perspective is there much difference between 6 days and 14 billion years?

 

Nope.

 

What is a few billion years for a God who created time? :)

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