unity beyond reason

[IreneM]

I was raised a catholic so know the belief system that is why I feel the way I do.........

In Christ

IreneM

[shammah]

There is a connection between the Catholic church, Masonry, and Mormonism, in practice ,symbols, and paganism, mixed with knostic beliefs, and the kabalah.

The ceremonial entry into the church and to the altar in the sanctuary is also acted out in the ritual of the opening of the Holy Door, the Porta Santa at St. Peter in Rome and other carefully selected churches. 191 This rite is executed only every twenty-five years and represents the entry of the children of God into the presence of the Lord. Medieval medals struck for the occasion often show Christ on one side of the portal and the pope or the people on the other. 192 The pope knocks three times with a golden hammer (The Pope kicks his heels three times, this is masonic), upon which the door is opened by the masons and he may enter through it and proceed to the sanctuary (inner chamber of the light of Lucifer). The remainder of the clergy and the people then follow after him. A prayer said by Pope Clement VIII during the rite in 1600 demonstrates clearly that the ceremony does indeed portray entry into the temple of god (their Lucifer) : "Open unto me the gates of Justice, when I am entered I will praise my lord. I will enter, O lord, into Thy House. I will adore Three in Thy fear in Thy temple." 193

Various ordinances and rituals in the Catholic Liturgy, then, derive from the temple and have been adopted by the church in a new context. " Rome has not abolished the rites of the Temple (masonic rites, in masonic temple), however, but simply taken them over, every particle of the ancient ordinances and imagery having been absorbed by the Christian sacraments." 195 For the perceptive Latter-day Saint (Mormon church), parallels are obvious and relationships apparent. Indeed, resemblances in form and purpose point to the probability of a common source and common origin, providing an interesting support to LDS CLAIMS, of a divine restoration of certain eternal truths apparently known and practiced anciently by former-day saints. There are common practices between the Mormons, Masons, and the Catholic Church. Disclaimer: (The Morman church is not the true gospel preached by the Apostles, or by the true Messiah, Jesus Christ.)

Part of the problem is that the Roman Catholic Church has been successfully infiltrated by Freemasons, which was long their goal

Another accompanying oddity is that these "magic Catholics" cannot see that the Roman doctrines have been changed continually to fit the fads of the day. Though, of course, the Roman Catholic Church stringently denies this, the evidence is overwhelming. Perhaps the best (and most recent) example is the doctrine of papal infallibility. Almost all the cardinals were against proclaiming it (most because they knew it couldn't be supported from scripture or tradition), but were bullied into doing so anyway. Might makes right in the Roman Catholic Church!

Freemasons have infiltrated the Church, claiming to be Christians.

Active Masons within the Church are meeting in secret to teach salvation on the basis of another savior. Inactive Masons have portrayed Hiram Abiff in ritual, yet they defend Masonry as being compatible with Christianity.

The false gospel of Freemasonry WILL result in many souls being cast into hell.

In some Catholic Churches Freemasons are active participants at Mass. They serve as Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers, door greeters and perform other functions.

Unless we directly and publicly take issue with the false gospel of Masonry (AND CATHOLICISM), additional sons, grandsons, husbands and brothers will become trapped. The Lodge points to Masons who are Church members to support their claim that Freemasonry is compatible with Christianity. By allowing Masonry to utilize a congregation as a cover, that congregation is allowing the world to believe that there is nothing in the teachings of Freemasonry with which they strongly disagree.

Nowhere is an enemy more destructive than when he is in your own camp. Satan's primary ploys were to divide Church from state and the Church from within itself. To date, Satan's plan has been successful. This leads us to the topic of Freemasonry. It is a complex subject with its leaders having access and control in most economic, political, judicial, and social spheres. It is a huge worldwide network which is called the "secret sect," which has common goals and an agenda all its own. Briefly, there is a vast network in place, which is more for earthly goals of wealth and creature comforts than heavenly ones. Sadly, this network extends into the very Church itself. What could be worse than people in high places within your Church working against you? This strategy of deceit in the Church is called Ecclesiastical Masonry.

More to come later, off to work,

Agape in Jesus, Ephraim

Edited November 23, 2004 by shammah

[ayin jade]

Do you read the stuff you post when you cut and paste it Shammah? In one paragraph you have actually claimed that mormons are correct in their doctrine. That is NOT Christian theology. I dont know where you got that from, but it isnt sound statements.

[shammah]

Ayin Jade, I think that if you re-read my post, you will find that it is a statement of what they CLAIM, not an indorsement.

But thanks anyway.

Shalom, and Love in Yah Shua, shammah