What do you think about breastfeeding? Cover or no cover?

[firestormx]

 

 

 

 

 

My ex-wife breastfeed. But in public she would go to the car or the bathroom if we were in public.

If a private place is convenient, then great. But not all women circumstances are convenient for a woman to tuck herself away. Example, a woman at a restaurant shopping with her baby and a toddler. Should she leave her toddler alone at the table? Or do you expect her to pack up all her stuff and her toddler to the women's bathroom where there might not be a sanitary place to place her bags nor a place to keep her toddler occupied?

If a public bathroom has a lounge with chairs, great. But are you advocating a woman sit on a toilet to feed her baby? Would you want to eat your dinner while sitting on a public toilet?

If breasts are just for breastfeeding and not sex. Then it should be ok for women to walk around topless, the way that men do. A lot of men when they got to hot, working for instance just take there shirt right off. Nothing is ever said it is wrong. So why can't women do the same thing?

Your argument is just as irrational as me replying that your attitude is not different than the Muslims who demand women wear burkhas. After all, your case is that women have to bend over backwards in order to guard men from their lust-problems. Well, this is what the advocates of burkhas proclaim.

And since you are so concerned about causing stumbling in a believer, how about the females who are feeling tempted to distrust and hate men by the catering to men's lusts being advocated in this thread? Is that loving?

Romans 14:20 (NIV)

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

Then you advocate that all women wear burkahs since for some men just the shape of the breast through clothing is enough to bring about lust.

You can't have it both ways

 

No. I used the bible, the final authority on all matters to us here and now, to show my specific point was scripturally valid.  

 

 

and, according to what you have posted on this thread, this verse means that ANYTHING that causes someone to stumble must be stopped. 

 

So, again...there are men, myself including in my younger days, to which the very site of shape of a breast through a woman's clothing would cause them to stumble with lust.  So, either you advocate that all Christian women wear burkahs or you are not being consistent in your application of this verse. 

 

So, do you agree all Christian women should wear burkahs to avoid causing men to stumble? 

 

As soon as you can show me the verses to back up your question I'll answer. I gave a bible verse. I will not respond to what if situations that can twist the word out of context. If you believe I have misused this verse, Then I ask as a brother in Christ for you to show me. In the Word of God, show me.

[JDavis]

 

As soon as you can show me the verses to back up your question I'll answer. I gave a bible verse. I will not respond to what if situations that can twist the word out of context. If you believe I have misused this verse, Then I ask as a brother in Christ for you to show me. In the Word of God, show me.

 

 

 

 

 

dude,  what are you talking about?  you have posted the verse like 20 times in this thread alone.  but let me help you out...

 

firestormx, on 12 Aug 2013 - 5:52 PM, said:

Romans 14:20 (NIV)

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

 

 

and it is not a "what if" situation, it is a fact.  There are men sitting in churches that stumble with lust due to the sight of a woman's breast, even just the shape of it through clothing. 

[firestormx]

 

 

As soon as you can show me the verses to back up your question I'll answer. I gave a bible verse. I will not respond to what if situations that can twist the word out of context. If you believe I have misused this verse, Then I ask as a brother in Christ for you to show me. In the Word of God, show me.

 

 

 

 

 

dude,  what are you talking about?  you have posted the verse like 20 times in this thread alone.  but let me help you out...

 

firestormx, on 12 Aug 2013 - 5:52 PM, said:

Romans 14:20 (NIV)

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

 

 

and it is not a "what if" situation, it is a fact.  There are men sitting in churches that stumble with lust due to the sight of a woman's breast, even just the shape of it through clothing. 

 

I don't see anything about a burka in that verse.

[JDavis]

As soon as you can show me the verses to back up your question I'll answer. I gave a bible verse. I will not respond to what if situations that can twist the word out of context. If you believe I have misused this verse, Then I ask as a brother in Christ for you to show me. In the Word of God, show me.

dude, what are you talking about? you have posted the verse like 20 times in this thread alone. but let me help you out...

firestormx, on 12 Aug 2013 - 5:52 PM, said:

Romans 14:20 (NIV)

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

and it is not a "what if" situation, it is a fact. There are men sitting in churches that stumble with lust due to the sight of a woman's breast, even just the shape of it through clothing.

I don't see anything about a burka in that verse.

Well it was just one suggestion, so what is your suggestion to hide even the shape of the breast to avoid making these men stumble?

[nebula]

I quoted a verse. A established biblical position that I have rooted in the word of God.

 

 

No, you manipulating the verse to fit an agenda.

 

The woman is not eating, so she is not eating anything that causes a man to stumble.

 

 

Now if you mean that the implication is "if I do anything" (not just eating), then be aware that your defense of men's lust is a stumbling block to women.

[nebula]

Hey guys I know this is getting a little heated. Please let's remember to just stick to the subject.

Take a breather or a brake from this thread if you're getting too emotionally involved.

This is just a discussion not a matter of life or death.

God bless,

GE

 

You're right.

 

I need to walk away.

[firestormx]

 

 

 

As soon as you can show me the verses to back up your question I'll answer. I gave a bible verse. I will not respond to what if situations that can twist the word out of context. If you believe I have misused this verse, Then I ask as a brother in Christ for you to show me. In the Word of God, show me.

 

dude, what are you talking about? you have posted the verse like 20 times in this thread alone. but let me help you out...

firestormx, on 12 Aug 2013 - 5:52 PM, said:

Romans 14:20 (NIV)

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

and it is not a "what if" situation, it is a fact. There are men sitting in churches that stumble with lust due to the sight of a woman's breast, even just the shape of it through clothing.

I don't see anything about a burka in that verse.

Well it was just one suggestion, so what is your suggestion to hide even the shape of the breast to avoid making these men stumble?

 

You missed my point. I gave a specific verse that says eating anything is wrong if it causes someone to stumble. Therefore, if a woman breastfeeding her child, breast or breasts exposed as the baby eats it's food causes problems for a believer, then it is wrong. Show me a verse that specifically says a woman has to wear anything to hide or cover the shape of her breasts. The only thing I know of, is verses that talk about people dressing modestly.  

[JDavis]

 

You missed my point. I gave a specific verse that says eating anything is wrong if it causes someone to stumble. Therefore, if a woman breastfeeding her child, breast or breasts exposed as the baby eats it's food causes problems for a believer, then it is wrong. Show me a verse that specifically says a woman has to wear anything to hide or cover the shape of her breasts. The only thing I know of, is verses that talk about people dressing modestly.  

 

 

you are correct, I did misunderstand you.  I apologize.

 

So, the baby is sinning by allowing people to be tempted by its eating, since it is eating and not the mother.

 

that is a new one, that is for sure. 

 

well it has been a pleasure,  enjoy your night, there is really nothing else that can be said after a post like this

[firestormx]

 

I quoted a verse. A established biblical position that I have rooted in the word of God.

 

 

No, you manipulating the verse to fit an agenda.

 

The woman is not eating, so she is not eating anything that causes a man to stumble.

 

 

Now if you mean that the implication is "if I do anything" (not just eating), then be aware that your defense of men's lust is a stumbling block to women.

 

The baby is innocent and has no choice in the matter. It is the mothers choice and responsibility. It's the mother that decides to expose her naked beast for all to see, in public so the baby can eat. There are other ways to do it, that have been gone over 100 times in this thread.

 

  What I find disturbing is the cold and almost mean attitude on this subject. Know something causes harm to fellow believers and the response is let's do it more and throw it in there face. It's all there fault if there tempted anyway. That is how I have read your and JD Davis response. Everyone must bow done and let women expose anything they want for any reason, and if someone is offended or says it's unbiblical for a woman's naked body to be exposed, then they are evil. How any Christian can say a woman exposing her naked breasts, in public is ok, is absolutely beyond me. 

[firestormx]

 

 

You missed my point. I gave a specific verse that says eating anything is wrong if it causes someone to stumble. Therefore, if a woman breastfeeding her child, breast or breasts exposed as the baby eats it's food causes problems for a believer, then it is wrong. Show me a verse that specifically says a woman has to wear anything to hide or cover the shape of her breasts. The only thing I know of, is verses that talk about people dressing modestly.  

 

 

you are correct, I did misunderstand you.  I apologize.

 

So, the baby is sinning by allowing people to be tempted by its eating, since it is eating and not the mother.

 

that is a new one, that is for sure. 

 

well it has been a pleasure,  enjoy your night, there is really nothing else that can be said after a post like this

 

It's the mother that's sinning, clearly. the baby has no choice.