Eternal Security or Once Saved Always Saved is Absolutely true

[Guest DRS81]

^{I do not believe in the "Once saved, always saved" because no matter what, u will always be a sinner. There is no such thing as a perfect and holy person, other than Jesus Christ. So, if you sin, you must ask for forgiveness, if you don't then you are not forgiven}

 

No, that's not biblical. Once you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior you are forgiven of past, present and future sins. The blood of the Lamb is permanent.

[niki23]

The thing is. I was saved when I was 14. After my mom left the church, I could no longer go. Soon after, I fell into a deep depression, cut myself, and was suicidal. The depression still lingers, although its not as bad, I quit cutting at 18, and suicidal thoughts ended at 22. I'm now 24. And I am not a great Christian, I wish I can be better. I had all my kids out of wedlock. I have 3, had my first at 18. I try so hard not to fall into temptations but I sin, ALOT, And I always feel ashamed, and I don't feel forgiven until I ask for it.

[Guest DRS81]

The thing is. I was saved when I was 14. After my mom left the church, I could no longer go. Soon after, I fell into a deep depression, cut myself, and was suicidal. The depression still lingers, although its not as bad, I quit cutting at 18, and suicidal thoughts ended at 22. I'm now 24. And I am not a great Christian, I wish I can be better. I had all my kids out of wedlock. I have 3, had my first at 18. I try so hard not to fall into temptations but I sin, ALOT, And I always feel ashamed, and I don't feel forgiven until I ask for it.

 

I can understand that. I was also suicidal at 24..

 

but when the holy spirit hits you that's it, you are his forever. Do you believe that Jesus is God and that he is your savior?

[niki23]

yes, I always have. I just fell when I was a teen, and just now getting up

[Guest DRS81]

yes, I always have. I just fell when I was a teen, and just now getting up

 

Well always keep your head up, and I'll pray for you niki23. May God draw you closer and more near to him. PM me anytime if you ever need to talk to someone. - David

[other one]

yes, I always have. I just fell when I was a teen, and just now getting up

Probably 2/3rds of the Christians i know who are my age have experienced much the same.....  maybe not to the point of trying to kill ourselves, but at lest leading lifestyles that would/could get us killed.

 

I am intrigued with the reasons for cutting.  I come across people who are struggling with this and I really don't know how to help.    Prayer sometimes works but understanding why this happens is just foreign to my thoughts....   I don't understand.

[EnochBethany]

Thanks for this topic post.

 

Actually if a person does not believe in Eternal Security, such a person does not trust the Lord Jesus as Savior in the sense that I do.  When I say I trust the Lord Jesus as my Savior, I mean that I trust Him for my new nature and for eternal bliss in companionship with Him wherever He may be at any time, currently in Heaven.  I do not mean that I believe He will give me eternal bliss if such & such.

 

I think that some who teach that one can lose salvation have a deficient understanding of what salvation is.  Salvation is not going to Heaven in the first instance.  Salvation is first of all a transformation from sinner to Child of God right now, though it does include eternal life.  Salvation is not an award to be received after your works are judged based on having done good works.  Salvation is a new birth, a metamorphosis for child of Adam to child of God, becoming a member of a new race, the race founded by the Lord Jesus:  I give them eternal life and they shall never perish

[enoob57]

The thing is. I was saved when I was 14. After my mom left the church, I could no longer go. Soon after, I fell into a deep depression, cut myself, and was suicidal. The depression still lingers, although its not as bad, I quit cutting at 18, and suicidal thoughts ended at 22. I'm now 24. And I am not a great Christian, I wish I can be better. I had all my kids out of wedlock. I have 3, had my first at 18. I try so hard not to fall into temptations but I sin, ALOT, And I always feel ashamed, and I don't feel forgiven until I ask for it.

You have by going your own way carved out a very difficult path for yourself and

your children... I would say the most necessary step is to find a body of believers that

live their lives for Christ in day to day living! Your going to need this support family

in order to be an overcomer in that place which you are. Prayed... Love, Steven

[niki23]

The problem I have finding a group of believers is that everyone is so judgeful, and every time I try going to church, I don't feel like I'm in the right place.

[enoob57]

The problem I have finding a group of believers is that everyone is so judgeful, and every time I try going to church, I don't feel like I'm in the right place.

satan does not want you to have a victorious fruitfull life for God's Glory!

You should know it will not be easy doing what is right... as you already know!

Something you should consider is that growth in The Lord automatically reduces

self consideration and increases considerations on God, family and others

As it is true the love of many believers are growing more and more cold to the things

of The Lord due to the increase of wickedness still does not excuse us of not giving

our all to Him in the search! This search with all the heart comes with promise

Jer 29:13-14

13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search

for me with all your heart. 14 And I will be found of you,

saith the Lord: and I will turn away your captivity, and I

will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places

whither I have driven you, saith the Lord; and I will bring

you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried

away captive.

KJV

Love, Steven