Elijah

[2404]

Malachi 4:1,5,&6

1.For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

 

5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6. And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

 

If we are closing in on the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord' which shall 'burn as an oven' where is the Elijah that is to turn 'the hearts of the children to their fathers'?

Jesus did identify John the baptist as the Elijah for His day but it appears we are to again expect an Elijah prior to the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord'.

Edited August 19, 2013 by 2404

[BlessedByTheBest]

you meant chapter 4 brother.

[enoob57]

This is a double fulfillment prophecy. The first is certainly Lk 1:16-17.

The second is alluded to Mal 4:5b
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
KJV

As we know Jesus' first advent was of Grace and does not match

this description but does of tribulation period!

 

This does give support as the one of two witnesses of the tribulation period

that are slain in the streets...  Love, Steven

[2404]

you meant chapter 4 brother.

Thank you...

[Qnts2]

Malachi 4:1,5,&6

1.For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

 

5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6. And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

 

If we are closing in on the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord' which shall 'burn as an oven' where is the Elijah that is to turn 'the hearts of the children to their fathers'?

Jesus did identify John the baptist as the Elijah for His day but it appears we are to again expect an Elijah prior to the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord'.

 

I believe that one of the witnesses mentioned in Revelation will be Elijah, preparing the way for the Lord.  

 

Revelation 11:3     And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

[2404]

This is a double fulfillment prophecy. The first is certainly Lk 1:16-17.

The second is alluded to Mal 4:5b

before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

KJV

As we know Jesus' first advent was of Grace and does not match

this description but does of tribulation period!

 

This does give support as the one of two witnesses of the tribulation period

that are slain in the streets...  Love, Steven

 

Hello brother Steven

I'm with you on John the Baptist but I believe the second Elijah commission would parallel it, one of restoration.

It seems the commission of the two witnesses in Revelation appear to be that of pronouncing judgement.

God bless

[Qnts2]

 

This is a double fulfillment prophecy. The first is certainly Lk 1:16-17.

The second is alluded to Mal 4:5b

before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

KJV

As we know Jesus' first advent was of Grace and does not match

this description but does of tribulation period!

 

This does give support as the one of two witnesses of the tribulation period

that are slain in the streets...  Love, Steven

 

Hello brother Steven

I'm with you on John the Baptist but I believe the second Elijah commission would parallel it, one of restoration.

It seems the commission of the two witnesses in Revelation appear to be that of pronouncing judgement.

God bless

 

 

John the Baptist preached, to repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

 

While we have had a period of time since Jesus where we are to share the gospel, in the future, just before Jesus is to return, it will be the last call to repentance, pending judgement. Many will die during this judgement.  

 

That plus, the Jewish people will be looking for Elijah who is to preceed and announce the Messiah. Elijah in the OT, did forewarn of coming judgement.

[2404]

 

 

This is a double fulfillment prophecy. The first is certainly Lk 1:16-17.

The second is alluded to Mal 4:5b

before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

KJV

As we know Jesus' first advent was of Grace and does not match

this description but does of tribulation period!

 

This does give support as the one of two witnesses of the tribulation period

that are slain in the streets...  Love, Steven

 

Hello brother Steven

I'm with you on John the Baptist but I believe the second Elijah commission would parallel it, one of restoration.

It seems the commission of the two witnesses in Revelation appear to be that of pronouncing judgement.

God bless

 

 

John the Baptist preached, to repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

 

While we have had a period of time since Jesus where we are to share the gospel, in the future, just before Jesus is to return, it will be the last call to repentance, pending judgement. Many will die during this judgement.  

 

That plus, the Jewish people will be looking for Elijah who is to preceed and announce the Messiah. Elijah in the OT, did forewarn of coming judgement.

 

Hello Q

What do you see as the defining features of the 'last call'?

[FreeinChrist]

Malachi 4:1,5,&6

1.For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

 

5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6. And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

 

If we are closing in on the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord' which shall 'burn as an oven' where is the Elijah that is to turn 'the hearts of the children to their fathers'?

Jesus did identify John the baptist as the Elijah for His day but it appears we are to again expect an Elijah prior to the 'great and dreadful day of the Lord'.

Not sure where I stand on this, but some believe that the period of 67-70 AD, with the Roman destruction of the Jewish Temple as being the fulfillment of this passage from Malachi.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Its interesting that Malachi  is the last book of the prophets which prophesied of Elijah to come and the very next book after Malachi is Mathew where Jesus is noted saying, " For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John" in Mat 11:13 where the record of John is. Jesus continues in verse 14 and says, if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. His disciples understanding him to be speaking of John the Baptist.

 

 Luke 1:17 And he (John) shall go before him (The Lord) in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

 

Whats interesting is, as it reads in Mal 4:6 where it says,  And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. And John (the Elijah for to come) was commissioned to the same. Elisha (who followed after Elijah) was the one shown cursing the children of the city who were mocking him.

 

Likewise did the mantle of Elijah come upon Elisha. There's a resemblance here as well

 

2Kings 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

 

Then we see also

 

In Mat 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, (The Elijah for to come) to be baptized of him.

 

This is where John actually forbade him

 

Mat 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

 

Mat 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

 

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

 

So Jesus said, "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John" in Mat 11:1

 

Its almost like a he must increase I must decrease thing comparatively between the two here as well

 

2Kings 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.

 

Just as after John (the Elijah for to come) bear witness of Jesus Christ and his disciples were directed to follow Jesus

 

John 1:38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou? He saith unto them, Come and see.

 

You can truly keep going. But John was filled with the Holy Ghost from the womb (where Jesus was actually conceived of the Holy Ghost) and so I would think going forth in the spirit and power of Elijah would be the spirit and power of the Holy Ghost even though John did no miracle.

 

After John is shut up in prison Jesus is off fulfilling Isaiah 61:2 being "the me" of verse 1 as shown in Luke 4:19-21 fulfilling the first part of that verse there, and bringing in the days of Elijah (and the years the heavens were shut up) as John is in prison. He too brings in Elisha. And the eyes all fixed upon him begin to be filled with wrath. The second half of the verse of Isaiah 61:2 is spoken of by Jesus in Luke 21:22. So one (to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord is shown as fulfilled this day in your ears in Luke 4:21  and the other (which is the days of vengeance of our God) is spoken by Jesus in Luke 21:22 "For these be the days of vengeance that ALL things which are written may be fulfilled.

 

Not sure if that helped any. I find that part between the two and watching where they are and what is spoken between a tad harder to follow. Like, you can see it, but you need to bounce around a bit. Writing it out bouncing around from Isaiah 40, Malichi 4 & 5, and Isaiah 61 which is shown in Jesus but split in Luke 4:19 as fulfilled and Luke 21:22 when all things written shall be fulfilled.

 

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

 

Luke 3:7 Then said he (John) to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

 

Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

 

Luke 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

 

Follow the first verse down to

 

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

 

Jesus said, "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John" Mat 11:1

 

The last verse of Mal (before the book of Mathew)

 

Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

 

Luke 1:17 And he (John) shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

 

Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

 

John 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him. (followed by a parable) to Mat 21:41 against them. Then see Mal 4:3 which also reflects what's in it Romans 2:5 Treasuring up unto thyself wrath.

 

I love this study.

 

2Kings 1:7... What manner of man was he which came up to meet you, and told you these words?

 

2Kings 1:8 And they answered him, He was an hairy man, and girt with a girdle of leather about his loins. And he said, It is Elijah the Tishbite.

 

Mark 1:6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins

 

Luke 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

 

Luke 7:26 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

 

Luke 7:27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

 

Luke 1:76-77 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways; To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins

 

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

 

Mat 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

 

There might be a few in here to consider, speaks of the wrath to come (even as John himself did). But who was also sent before that time likewise.