Split: Ghosts and Aliens... The Bible & God's Revelation

[Sanh]

Split from:

 

This thread is about The Bible and God's revelation to mankind - particularly private revelation that contradicts Scripture.

 

 

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The bible itself tells us that the truth is the Lord Jesus Christ himself, how do you now say that you are looking for truth using scripture only, is the truth the scripture and not Jesus? Don't you believe the bible in that part where Jesus said He is the Truth, and.......? If you want the truth, go and get it from the Lord Jesus Christ himself. But if you want opinions and ideas of your fellow men, then let us talk ghosts and aliens by what we know from the bible. But can you please define first ghosts and that of aliens for us to understand your take on these two words in particular.

Edited August 19, 2013 by GoldenEagle
To link original thread and clarify purpose of the split.

[JDavis]

Sanh, the topic of thread is ghosts and aliens. It's not a bad thing to search for truth and ask questions. Try not to assume things. Yes, I believe Jesus is the truth, and by using scripture we can know if ghosts and aliens exist or not. Thus, the topic at hand. I shared my beliefs in the OP. Shalom, David.

So, if you believe Jesus is the truth, then it follows that we can get the truth about aliens and ghosts from the Lord Jesus himself, doesn't it? How can the bible give you the truth about ghosts and aliens when the bible is a book that in itself does not speak as we humans do? All that we can say here if we use the bible as the basis for this topic is nothing but different interpretations and opinions via bible verses and most likely than not, disagreement will surely crop up even we are using the same verses of the bible as our basis of discussion.

If not from the Bible, how does Jesus pass on the truth to us?

How does this work with such truths as 2+2=4?

[Sanh]

If not from the Bible, how does Jesus pass on the truth to us?

How does this work with such truths as 2+2=4?

 

 

Jesus himself, as in the days of the old and the new, comes down to those people today who come to and call on in Him truly and teach them the truth they need so that those people who truly seek Him may know from the Lord the way to their salvation and the knowledge about God.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Sanh

[JDavis]

If not from the Bible, how does Jesus pass on the truth to us?

How does this work with such truths as 2+2=4?

Jesus himself comes down to those people who come to and call on in Him truly and teach them the truth so that those people who truly seek Him may know from the Lord the way to their salvation and the knowledge about God.

When you say "comes down" are referring to something like the Holy Spirit or something more direct?

[Sanh]

 

When you say "comes down" are referring to something like the Holy Spirit or something more direct?

 

 

 

The latter is the one that is accurate.

[JDavis]

When you say "comes down" are referring to something like the Holy Spirit or something more direct?

The latter is the one that is accurate.

Thank you.

I will admit the problem I see with this view is what is to be done when two people claim Jesus told them two conflicting things?

How is one to know which is right?

Do you think that a humans own prejudice might cloud their judgement in this area. I have known a couple of men who have stated Jesus told them to leave their wives and marry another woman.

Without turning to the written word of God, how does one determine if they are correct?

[Sanh]

 

Thank you.

I will admit the problem I see with this view is what is to be done when two people claim Jesus told them two conflicting things?

How is one to know which is right?

Do you think that a humans own prejudice might cloud their judgement in this area. I have known a couple of men who have stated Jesus told them to leave their wives and marry another woman.

Without turning to the written word of God, how does one determine if they are correct?

 

 

1.  When two people claim Jesus told them two conflicting things, the one who is from Jesus will surely go back to the Lord Jesus to ask and seek from Him the truth about the other claim.

 

2.  Surely, humans own prejudice will cloud their judgment in this area. What is best is to always come to Jesus and seek from Him His own advice on the issue and the art of waiting for the Lord to respond to our call is a must in this area of concern.

 

3.  It is only by and through the Lord Jesus that one may determine if he is correct or not.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Sanh

[JDavis]

Thank you.

I will admit the problem I see with this view is what is to be done when two people claim Jesus told them two conflicting things?

How is one to know which is right?

Do you think that a humans own prejudice might cloud their judgement in this area. I have known a couple of men who have stated Jesus told them to leave their wives and marry another woman.

Without turning to the written word of God, how does one determine if they are correct?

1. When two people claim Jesus told them two conflicting things, the one who is from Jesus will surely go back to the Lord Jesus to ask and seek from Him the truth about the other claim.

2. Surely, humans own prejudice will cloud their judgment in this area. What is best is to always come to Jesus and seek from Him His own advice on the issue and the art of waiting for the Lord to respond to our call is a must in this area of concern.

3. It is only by and through the Lord Jesus that one may determine if he is correct or not.

So then it is totally possible that Jesus himself told these men to abandon their wives and marry other women....even though such a thing would contradict the written Word of God?

[Sanh]

 

So then it is totally possible that Jesus himself told these men to abandon their wives and marry other women....even though such a thing would contradict the written Word of God?

 

 

What I know is that Jesus is real and alive and He is not selfish to tell the truth to those who truly seek Him. We have learned from the Lord that a man should only take one woman for his wife unto death and in that regard, I doubt those men's claim that Jesus told them to abandon their wives and marry other women. Since the bible is not the Lord God, it doesn't follow always that what is contradictory to the bible is contradictory to God, too.

[Sevenseas]

So then I guess there are many Apostles at work in the world today seeing as we have all these people that have had and continue to have a personal revelation of the Son of God

that basically makes the Bible obsolete.

 

That explains many things.

 

I hope I have that wrong, buuuuut...that is how it appears to read.,

 

Since the bible is not the Lord God, it doesn't follow always that what is contradictory to the bible is contradictory to God, too.

 

 

Ah yes.  Much clearer now.  Thank you.

 

 

Is it me, or has the op been hijacked and is now on its way to never land?