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I would like to ask you something about religious instruction in public schools.  When my little sister was in grade 5 our Elementary School Principal brought her Bible into the classroom and read to the children, and prayed with the children.  That days Bible lesson was about being equally yoked, and why that means that Jesus doesn't want little boys and little girls of different races to date.  Would you propose a particular curriculum for religious instruction in public schools, or could any teacher instruct the children about whatever that teacher believed?   Given that, to this day, very few denominations have taken a stand against those of their churches that still preach against inter-racial marriage I'm thinking that there would be no particular religious curriculum put in place that would protect children from being taught such absolute worthless drivel.  As such, I would rather religious instruction be left out of public schools.

 

The Bible was the first public school textbook in the USA.

 

I suppose a teacher taking license to teach what they believe to be moral is always up to the parent to insure it is correct (whether or not religious instruction is involved).

 

You find a school that can provide an education without the parents ever having to concern themselves with this and I'd like to know where that school exists.


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My take on interracial marriage...

 

I'm all for it...

 

Just hope all who are considering it realize the prejudice they will receive from all races (particularly those involved).

 

It isn't right. But it's real. And it's not only the Caucasians who are prejudice. 

 

There is a recent Cheerios commercial where a beautiful little girl asks her Caucasian mother if Cheerios help heart health. She tells her it does, and her African American father wakes up with a pile of Cheerios on his chest and calls out the precocious little girl's name...

 

It was pulled from the ad sched for a time due to protests from both Caucasian and African Americans...

 

The reality is also that children born in "mixed marriages" will face these kinds of prejudice most of their lives.

 

This too must be considered by those who are contemplating interracial marriage.

 

A perfect world we do not live in.


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The biggest thing I noticed was the absence of the Roe vs Wade decision in January of 1973.  That had to be an oversight, given the other references to later abortion decisions? 

 

I don't see the addition of a PG-13 rating to be something bad?  There are a lot of movies that were getting a PG rating that would now get a PG-13 rating, and that protects young children from movies I personally think are too intense for young children like "Poltergeist" and "Legend of Hell House."  There needed to be a rating between PG and R.  The early James Bond films all got a PG, but today they are getting a PG-13, which is more appropriate, in my opinion. 

 

Gambling is a controversial issue because it is never addressed in scripture.  At the same time, I do see it as having a negative effect on society, in that many people become addicted, and they will waste money for food or rent on gambling.  I once saw a truck driver get an advance on his check and blow it all on scratch off tickets.  While it is not a sin to gamble if it is done in moderation, having seen the devastating effects it has had on some families, I have to agree with having gambling on this list. 

 

We use to have a teacher led prayer in school, and I think that is a good thing, as it puts the young people's mind on God.  I do see it as a tragedy prayer and Bible lessons were removed from public education.  I have never heard of anyone teaching against inter-racial marriage or dating?  I am not saying it never happened, but I have never heard of it, and I have lived in North Carolina all my life, where there was still some segregation when I was a child.  It wasn't legal, but it still took place.  I think the good outweighs the bad when it comes to acknowledging God in the public schools. 

 

The source I was using had Abortion as its own section.

 

The managements suggests I use less threads so I'll post the Abortion timeline here:

 

I also took out all the source links I could find

 

1959

A model penal code for state abortion laws proposed by the American Law Institute (ALI) promotes legal abortions in instances involving the mother's mental or physical health, pregnancy due to rape and incest, and fetal deformity.

1967

The first ALI-model abortion law is signed in April allowing abortion in cases of permanent mental or physical disability of either the child or mother or in cases of rape or incest. California, Oregon, and North Carolina pass similar laws.

1970

Abortion on demand up to the 24th week of pregnancy is allowed in New York after Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller signs a bill repealing the state's 1830 law banning abortion except to save a woman's life. Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington State pass similar laws.

1971

Abortion is effectively allowed for any reason following the Supreme Court's ruling on its first abortion case, United States v. Vuitch. In upholding a District of Columbia law permitting abortion only to preserve a woman's life or health, the Court makes it clear that the term "health" involves a woman's mental and physical condition.

1972

By the end of this year, 13 states have an ALI-type law. Four states allow abortion on demand. Mississippi allows abortion for rape and incest while Alabama allows abortion for the mother's physical health. Thirty-one states allow abortion only to save the mother's life.

1973

Roe v. Wade: On January 22 of this year, the U.S. Supreme Court issues its ruling in this landmark case giving women the right to abortion and setting up parameters of regulation according to the trimester of pregnancy. Later this year, the National Right to Life Committee now the nation's largest pro-life organization--is formed.

1974

In the first statewide political battle after the Roe v. Wade decision, pro-life Sen. Bob Dole defeats a congressman physician who performs abortions.

1975

Boston abortionist Kenneth C. Edelin is found guilty of manslaughter for the death of an unborn child and, later this year, the first Human Life Amendment is introduced in the U.S. Senate.

1976

The U.S. Senate conducts a test vote on the Human Life Amendment in April, drawing 40 votes of the 67 needed for approval. In June of this year, the first Hyde Amendment is approved, prohibiting Medicaid funding of abortions with limited exceptions. In December, Edelin's manslaughter conviction is overturned by the Massachusetts Superior Judicial Court, which rules that legal abortions are manslaughter only if the baby is definitely alive outside the mother's body.

1977

In three cases (Maher v. Roe, Beal v. Doe, and Poelker v. Doe), the U.S. Supreme Court rules that federal and state governments are not obligated to pay for abortion in public assistance programs.

1980

In Harris v. McRae, the U.S. Supreme Court upholds the Hyde Amendment, ruling that there is no constitutional right for women to receive abortions at public expense. Later this year, Republican pro-life candidates Ronald Reagan and George Bush defeat pro-abortion President Jimmy Carter and Vice President Walter Mondale. Eleven U.S. Senators switch positions from pro-abortion to pro-life.

1981

In July of this year, a bill to challenge Roe v. Wade is approved. In December, a Senate subcommittee approves a constitutional amendment declaring that the Constitution secures no right to abortion.

1982

In March of this year, the Hatch Amendment is approved, which would place abortion regulation in the joint authority of the states and Congress. In September, the bill challenging Roe v. Wade is blocked by a pro-abortion filibuster in the U.S. Senate.

1983

In June of this year, the U.S. Supreme Court strikes down certain requirements regarding abortions but it does rule that states may require that abortions only be performed by licensed physicians. Also this month, the Senate rejects the Eagleton-Hatch Amendment, which states that the Constitution doesn't secure the right to an abortion, by a vote of 49-50. (A two-thirds vote is required to pass a constitutional amendment.) And in November, Congress approves an amendment prohibiting the use of federal employees health benefits programs to pay for abortions, except in circumstances threatening the life of the mother.

1984

In June, the Reagan Administration announces the "Mexico City Policy," denying funds to foreign organizations that perform or promote abortion as a family-planning tool in other nations. Later this year, pro-life President Reagan is reelected, defeating the pro-abortion Democrats Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

1985

In July, the House reaffirms the Mexico City Policy by a 45-vote margin. The Kemp/Kasten Amendment is also enacted, denying U.S. population-assistance funds to any group that supports or participates in programs of coercive abortion or involuntary sterilization. Later this month, the U.S. Justice Department files a friend-of-the-court brief urging the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade.

1986

In June, in Thornburgh v. American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the U.S. Supreme Court strikes down state laws requiring an abortionist to use the method most likely to allow the child to be born alive. It also strikes down women's right-to-know laws and the waiting period requirement. In September, leading pro-abortion senators fail to block the promotion of Associate Justice William Rehnquist to chief justice.

1987

In July, President Reagan announces that Title 10 funds won't be offered to programs giving counseling and referral for abortion services as a family planning method. The next month, Reagan appoints a federal task force to encourage adoption as an alternative to abortion. In October of this year, the Senate rejects the nomination of pro-life Judge Robert Bork to the U.S. Supreme Court. The seat ultimately goes to Anthony Kennedy, who votes to reaffirm the core holdings of Roe in 1992.

1988

In September, licensing is approved by the French government for the use of RU 486. Later this month, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration bans the importation of the drug for personal use.Also in September, the U.S. Senate passes an amendment barring Washington D.C. from paying for abortions or performing abortions in its city-operated hospital. In October, the French government reverses its decision to halt distribution of RU 486. And in November, pro-life Republican candidates Vice President George Bush and Dan Quayle defeat pro-abortion Democratic candidates Michael Dukakis and Lloyd Bentsen.

1989

In July, the U.S. Supreme Court upholds parts of a Missouri law stating that governments do not constitutionally have to make public facilities available to those performing abortions. In November, the "Freedom of Choice Act" is introduced for the first time in the U.S. House and Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey signs the Abortion Control Act.

1990

In March, a federal court in New York dismisses Planned Parenthood's lawsuit challenging the Mexico City Policy. In May, it is announced that RU 486 will be marketed outside France. In June, the U.S. House rejects a proposal to fund two organizations that promote abortion in less-developed nations. In August, the AFL-CIO Executive Council rejects a proposal to switch from a neutral stance abortion to take a pro-abortion position.

1991

The U.S. Supreme Court upholds the Bush Administration's regulations that prohibit routine counseling and referral for abortion in 4,000 clinics that receive Title 10 funds. President Bush vows to veto any legislation weakening current law or existing regulations pertaining to abortion. Later this year, President Bush nominates and the Senate confirms Judge Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. In October of this year, a child is born with one arm severed at the shoulder after surviving an abortion attempt in her mother's third trimester of pregnancy.

1992

In February of this year, the Bush Administration threatens to veto legislation requiring federal funding of research that encourages or depends on abortion, including the use of tissue harvested from aborted babies. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court reaffirms the basics of Roe with the only a few changes. For example, it tosses the trimester scheme and upholds certain restrictions on abortion. Later this year, the U.S. House sustains President Bush's veto of a bill requiring federal funding for transplanting tissue taken from aborted babies by a narrow margin. In September of this year, at a National Abortion Foundation seminar, abortionist Martin Haskell describes the gruesome partial-birth abortion technique, which involves delivering all but the head of a baby from the mother's womb, piercing the skull, suctioning out the brain, then completing the delivery. And in November, pro-abortion Democrats Bill Clinton and Al Gore defeat pro-life President George Bush and Vice President Dan Quayle.

1993

In January of this year, President Clinton issues five executive orders regarding abortion issues. They include: 1) reversing Title 10 regulations banning abortion referral by federal employees; 2) repealing the Mexico City Policy; 3) lifting the ban on funding for fetal tissue transplants; 4) instructing military hospitals to perform abortions; and 5) asking the FDA to review the import ban on RU 486. The following month, abortionist Abu Hayat is convicted of assault and illegal abortion for his attempt to kill via abortion Ana Rosa Rodriguez, the baby born in 1991 with a severed arm. In June, the U.S. House renews the Hyde Amendment. An NRLC-led lobbying campaign defeats the so-called "Freedom of Choice Act," a proposed federal statute to invalidate even the narrow types of state abortion regulations permitted by the Supreme Court. In December, the Clinton Administration orders states to change their laws and provide payments for abortions in cases of rape or incest.

1994

U.S. patent rights for RU 486 are donated to the Population Council. In September, it is announced that the Clinton Health Care Plan will not be introduced in the U.S. Senate in the current session. A massive public education and lobbying campaign led by NRLC contributes heavily to the ultimate defeat of Clinton's national health system that would ration lifesaving care and pay for abortion on demand. In October, the Population Council announces that testing of RU 486 is underway in the United States. In November, in nationwide congressional elections, no pro-life members of Congress are defeated by pro-abortion challengers. Republicans take over majority control of both houses of Congress. Pro-lifers pick up six votes in the Senate and about 40 in the House.

1995

In June, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act is introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives. In August, Norma McCorvey, the "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade, tells a national television audience that she now supports the right to life of unborn children. She had already revealed that this pregnancy was not the product of a rape - - as she had previously contended - - showing that Roe had been built on a lie. Also in August, abortionist David Benjamin is convicted of second-degree murder in the botched-abortion death of Guadalupe Negron. He is the first New York abortionist to be convicted of murder. In November, U.S. House passes the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act and in December, the U.S. Senate passes the act.

1996

In April, President Clinton vetoes the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. In July, an FDA committee recommends that the FDA approve marketing RU 486 for women up to 49 days pregnant. In September, the FDA declares RU 486 approvable, but asks for more information before the drug can be marketed. In November, Bill Clinton and Al Gore defeat the pro-life Republican ticket of Bob Dole and Jack Kemp.

1997

In March, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act is passed in the House in March and in May, it is passed in the U.S. Senate with just three votes shy of the number required to override President Clinton's veto, issued, as expected, the following October.

1998

In April, the New England Journal of Medicine publishes the results of a U.S. trial of RU 486 and the drug is declared safe by the Population Council.

May 1999

The National Bioethics Advisory Commission says researchers should be allowed to harvest the stem cells from leftover embryos at fertility clinics for research that may result in effective treatments for Parkinson's and other diseases. Research on stem cells might also lead to methods of growing body parts. The Commission reasons that the benefits from research outweigh any "taint that might attach from the source of the stem cells." February 2001 The European Union will offset U.S. cuts in family planning: According to the Guardian newspaper, "Britain and its EU partners are poised to fill some of the gap created by President George Bush's decision to end US payments to [some] international family planning organizations..."

June of 2002

the Swiss voted to decriminalize abortion. A parliamentary decision to allow abortions within the first 12 weeks was backed by 72% of voters.

November 2003

Ban on "Partial Birth Abortions" was signed into law on the afternoon of 2003-NOV-5. Three federal court temporary injunctions were obtained which prevent the law from being enforced.

July 2005

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty signed legislation that requires doctors to tell women seeking an abortion after 20 weeks gestation that fetuses might feel pain during the procedure and offer them the option of fetal anesthesia.

2006

Backed by abortion rights groups, three Massachusetts women sued Wal-Mart, accusing the retail giant of violating a state regulation by failing to stock emergency contraception pills in its pharmacies.

2007

Legislation introduced in Tennessee would require death certificates for aborted fetuses.

2008

In Romania, abortions are illegal after 14 weeks gestation unless needed to protect the health of the woman.....However, a government panel approved an abortion for a 11-year-old who was at more than 20 weeks gestation because of her age and in order to preserve her mental health. The Romanian Orthodox Church itself, however, did not denounce the abortion because they feel that abortion in case of rape and incest may be acceptable....The girl had been apparently raped by her uncle. (lifesitenews.com)

2009

January 23,2009-  Lead by President Obama, the United States repealed the so-called global gag order, that had prevented US funding for international family planning groups that offer advice on or perform abortions.

March 9,2009- Australia will lift a 13-year ban on using foreign aid funds to support family planning and safe abortions in poor nations.May- The National Board of Health and Welfare in Sweden has ruled that sex-selection abortions are not illegal despite evidence that they are happening. Doctors at one hospital reported a case and some reports indicate women from Norway are going to Sweden for sex-selection abortions. The board ruled that current national law in Sweden does not prohibit abortions based on the gender of the unborn child and, as a result, they can't be stopped. (LifeNews.com)

May 31,2009-  Dr. George Tiller, who's clinic was one of only three in the nation to provide late-term abortions, was shot and killed as he entered Reformation Lutheran Church.  He had been attacked previously, receiving two gunshot wounds in 1993, and his clinic had been bombed in 1985.

Aug 20, 2009- A federal judge strikes down portions of a South Dakota abortion law that required doctors to tell women seeking the procedure that they have a legally protected relationship with the fetus, and another requiring doctors to inform women that abortion increases the risk of suicide, calling it untruthful and misleading.  The judge upheld the section of the law that stated doctors must tell a pregnant woman that the procedure will terminate the life of a whole separate unique living human being.

Dec 28, 2009-  Since the legalization of abortion in Mexico City (April 2007),  approximately 34,000 procedures have been performed. (lifenews.com)

February 22, 2010  Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), the federation of right-to-life affiliates in all 50 states, issues the following statement addressing the health bill proposed by President Obama:

Any member of Congress who votes for the final legislation proposed by President Obama will be voting for direct federal funding of elective abortion through Community Health Centers, and also an array of other pro-abortion federal subsidies and mandates.

 The health bill passed by the Senate in December (H.R. 3590) had become, by the conclusion of the Senate amendment process, the most expansively pro-abortion bill ever brought to the floor of either house of Congress since Roe v. Wade.  [Obama] actually proposes to increase the funds that would be available to directly subsidize abortion procedures (through Community Health Centers) and to subsidize private health insurance that covers abortion (through the premium-subsidy tax credits program). 

 If all of the President's changes were made, the resulting legislation would allow direct federal funding of abortion on demand through Community Health Centers, would institute federal subsidies for private health plans that cover abortion on demand (including some federally administered plans), and would authorize federal mandates that would require even non-subsidized private plans to cover elective abortion. 

 

September 29, 2011 Pro-abortion advocates in North Carolina (including two Planned Parenthood affiliates) filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the Middle Districtof North Carolina seeking to block the North Carolina "Woman's Right to Know" law from going into effect.  The law, which was enacted in July over Governor Beverly Perdue's veto, requires that mothers seeking abortion be given information about the abortion and that a real-time ultrasound image of her unborn child be displayed so that she may view the image before the abortion can be performed.

Enacted by a bi-partisan override of Governor Perdue's July veto, the informed consent law provides that a booklet containing scientifically accurate information about risks, alternatives and information on the development of the unborn child, compiled by the Department of Health and Human Services, be offered to the mother at least 24 hours prior to an abortion so that she might have the opportunity to read and understand the information.  It also provides that an ultrasound image of the unborn child be displayed at least four hours prior to an abortion so that the mother might view it.

 

August 31, 2011 An Idaho law protecting unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion was challenged in the U.S. District Court for Idaho, with a hearing set for September 8. The Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act was passed by the Idaho state legislature by overwhelming majorities earlier this spring. In passing the law, the legislature determined that there is substantial medical evidence concluding that unborn children are capable of experiencing pain and that the state has a compelling state interest in protecting these pain-capable children.

 A significant number of scientific studies support the state's conclusion that unborn babies are capable of feeling pain by twenty weeks (20) weeks after fertilization. On average, 18,000 abortions are performed every year in the United States on these pain-capable children, including at some Planned Parenthood clinics. An online library of research and further information

 

January 20, 2012

New regulations implemented by the Obama administration mandate that sterilization options, abortifacients (abortion drugs), and contraception services must be included in virtually all health plans, including those offered by Christian charities, church based hospitals, Christian universities, and other faith-based social services agencies. Obama now demands that his anti-life and pro-abortion agenda be supported not only by our tax dollars, but also by the donations of Christians who consider the destruction of human life morally abhorrent and an abomination, violating the First-Amendment religious rights of millions of Americans.

 

March 12, 2012 - The Obama administration issued the final rules on abortion funding. The concern pro-life organizations had about the ObamaCare legislation funding abortions has been confirmed, as the Obama administration released their governing implementations over the controversial health care law. Nestled within the "individual mandate" in the Obamacare act--that portion of the Act requiring every American to purchase government--approved insurance or pay a penalty--is an "abortion premium mandate." This mandate requires all persons enrolled in insurance plans that include elective abortion coverage to pay a separate premium from their own pockets to fund abortion.   

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/12/obama-admin-finalizes-rules-1-abortions-in-obamacare/

August 28, 2012 - Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), a leading pro-life member of Congress, called President Barack Obama extreme on abortion, particularly citing the president's opposition to a ban on sex-selective abortion.                                       


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I'm curious about gambling being listed at the top there. Does anyone else see gambling as intrinsically sinful? It's hard to think of grounds for that, unless there is something else going on, such as putting your family's livelihood at risk.

The Bible does not specifically condemn gambling.The Bible does warn us to stay away from the love of money.Does gambling focus on the love of money?What about temptation?

 

 

I know a lot of guys who go out for a poker night as just a fun activity with the guys.  Low stakes.  They budget an amount of play money they're willing to spend on the night and don't buy back in.  I think it's how it's approached.  If someone is strapped for cash and counting on a win, then that's a bad scenario to be gambling in.  If they are addicted and driven to keep buying back in no matter how many times they lose, and are incapable of deciding on a set amount to spend on the evening and not going over that then that's also a bad scenario!  It's the same as if a person is short on money, feeling down about being short on money, so they go comfort shopping.  It's not financially healthy.

 

That's honestly what I had in mind, low stakes types of things.

 

But, I am curious about the larger issue, if I had a grand to burn, why couldn't I gamble it? And then secondarily, about a $10 poker game.

 

Like I have said many times on this messageboard life is full of choices.


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I'm curious about gambling being listed at the top there. Does anyone else see gambling as intrinsically sinful? It's hard to think of grounds for that, unless there is something else going on, such as putting your family's livelihood at risk.

The Bible does not specifically condemn gambling.The Bible does warn us to stay away from the love of money.Does gambling focus on the love of money?What about temptation?

 

 

I know a lot of guys who go out for a poker night as just a fun activity with the guys.  Low stakes.  They budget an amount of play money they're willing to spend on the night and don't buy back in.  I think it's how it's approached.  If someone is strapped for cash and counting on a win, then that's a bad scenario to be gambling in.  If they are addicted and driven to keep buying back in no matter how many times they lose, and are incapable of deciding on a set amount to spend on the evening and not going over that then that's also a bad scenario!  It's the same as if a person is short on money, feeling down about being short on money, so they go comfort shopping.  It's not financially healthy.

 

That's honestly what I had in mind, low stakes types of things.

 

But, I am curious about the larger issue, if I had a grand to burn, why couldn't I gamble it? And then secondarily, about a $10 poker game.

 

 Personally, if someone is wealthy enough to just burn a grand I'd rather see them burn it at a charity poker night than at a casino, but ultimately it's their choice and none of my business.  Just like personally I'm not a fan of $3000 shoes, but somehow $3000 shoes from a charity auction urk me less.  That said, I'm sure it's not my place to judge what others choose to do with their money.  I know I'd just love to have a top of the line AlienWare gaming PC and laptop.  Some people would think that is excessive too.  I'd also love to fill my house with Dyson products!  I think there is much more value in looking after my own greed and lust for shiny objects, and tending to good stewardship of my own resources.  My own resources and my own attitude is the only thing I legitimately have power over.


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My take on interracial marriage...

 

I'm all for it...

 

Just hope all who are considering it realize the prejudice they will receive from all races (particularly those involved).

 

It isn't right. But it's real. And it's not only the Caucasians who are prejudice. 

 

There is a recent Cheerios commercial where a beautiful little girl asks her Caucasian mother if Cheerios help heart health. She tells her it does, and her African American father wakes up with a pile of Cheerios on his chest and calls out the precocious little girl's name...

 

It was pulled from the ad sched for a time due to protests from both Caucasian and African Americans...

 

The reality is also that children born in "mixed marriages" will face these kinds of prejudice most of their lives.

 

This too must be considered by those who are contemplating interracial marriage.

 

A perfect world we do not live in.

 

I don't like it when Christian's advise people to consider conforming to the ways of the world.  That people still don't like inter-racial marriage is all the more reason to not let those prejudices be a consideration.  When people who don't believe that they're supposed to be set apart to be Gods hands and feet advise conformity I mind it less.  That's to be expected.  But I can't take it from the people who have called themselves sanctified.  Every denomination should be rooting out those Churches within their membership who are against inter-racial marriage.  They should be taking a stand against racism, not shrugging and shying away from causing offence to their bigoted brethren.


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My take on interracial marriage...

 

I'm all for it...

 

Just hope all who are considering it realize the prejudice they will receive from all races (particularly those involved).

 

It isn't right. But it's real. And it's not only the Caucasians who are prejudice. 

 

There is a recent Cheerios commercial where a beautiful little girl asks her Caucasian mother if Cheerios help heart health. She tells her it does, and her African American father wakes up with a pile of Cheerios on his chest and calls out the precocious little girl's name...

 

It was pulled from the ad sched for a time due to protests from both Caucasian and African Americans...

 

The reality is also that children born in "mixed marriages" will face these kinds of prejudice most of their lives.

 

This too must be considered by those who are contemplating interracial marriage.

 

A perfect world we do not live in.

 

I don't like it when Christian's advise people to consider conforming to the ways of the world.  That people still don't like inter-racial marriage is all the more reason to not let those prejudices be a consideration.  When people who don't believe that they're supposed to be set apart to be Gods hands and feet advise conformity I mind it less.  That's to be expected.  But I can't take it from the people who have called themselves sanctified.  Every denomination should be rooting out those Churches within their membership who are against inter-racial marriage.  They should be taking a stand against racism, not shrugging and shying away from causing offence to their bigoted brethren.

 

I have to agree with this, it's particularly egregious in the body of Christ.


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My take on interracial marriage...

 

I'm all for it...

 

Just hope all who are considering it realize the prejudice they will receive from all races (particularly those involved).

 

It isn't right. But it's real. And it's not only the Caucasians who are prejudice. 

 

There is a recent Cheerios commercial where a beautiful little girl asks her Caucasian mother if Cheerios help heart health. She tells her it does, and her African American father wakes up with a pile of Cheerios on his chest and calls out the precocious little girl's name...

 

It was pulled from the ad sched for a time due to protests from both Caucasian and African Americans...

 

The reality is also that children born in "mixed marriages" will face these kinds of prejudice most of their lives.

 

This too must be considered by those who are contemplating interracial marriage.

 

A perfect world we do not live in.

I still see this comercial quite frequently


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The Bible does not specifically say interracial marriage is wrong. To many people take what it does say out of context.

 

What it does say is do not be yoked to unbelievers.

 

One of the passages taken out of context is Deuteronomy 7:3-4 which says

 

"3) You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, 4) for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly."

 

What they fail to do is recognize WHY that is commanded. It was not because of racial differences. It is purely religious. God was sending His children into a land occupied by non-believers. His was a warning that after they conquered the land they should not marry the unbelievers. This would lead them away from Him and into the worship of idols.

 

The New Testament also addresses this in several places.

 

2nd Corinthians 6:14

 

“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?”

 

There is no place in the life of the Christian for favoritism based on partiality, in this case race.  (James 2:1-10).

 

The Bible is very clear about selecting a mate. One should always find out first is the person they are interested in is born again by faith in Jesus.

 

 Faith in Christ is the biblical standard for choosing a spouse. With both interracial marriage and non-interacial marriage it is not a matter of right or wrong, but of wisdom, discernment, and prayer.

 

I dare anyone to tell me that son and daughter-in-law's marriage is a "sin". He is a white boy from Alabama. She is Colombian, which makes her Hispanic.

 

FWIW, my daughter's first husband is from Puerto Rico. That makes him Hispanic.

 

All 4 of them are Christians, therefore they followed the biblical principle for marriage.

 

Both my children have daughters. Again, I dare anyone to tell me those 2 precious gifts from God are the products of a "sinful" marriage.

 

Having said all that, immorality is nothing new. It's been a part of this world since Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Every generation has decried the lack of morality and how it is leading to the world's downfall.

 

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

 

Attributed to Socrates by Plato

 

All you have to do is read the Bible to find out what immorality is mentioned in it.

 

*edited to correct a spelling error*

Edited by Kali_Ko_Kat
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