Tetragrammaton

[Tyler47]

"The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin."

 

http://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH.htm

 

I thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

Most Hebrew Scholars translate YHWH as Yahweh, a verb form meaning "to be" which is backed up in scripture in Exodus where God reveals his name to Moses as "I AM THAT I AM".  How do some scholars come up with any other interpretation, such as YHVH, JHVH and JHWH?  Is there any Biblical support for these translations or are they just mistranslated?

[Guest shiloh357]

"The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin."

 

http://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH.htm

 

I thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

Most Hebrew Scholars translate YHWH as Yahweh, a verb form meaning "to be" which is backed up in scripture in Exodus where God reveals his name to Moses as "I AM THAT I AM".  How do some scholars come up with any other interpretation, such as YHVH, JHVH and JHWH?  Is there any Biblical support for these translations or are they just mistranslated?

The word Jehovah is an attempt to take the three vowels of "Adonai"  and apply them to the Tetragrammaton.  YaHoVaH or as we say it in English, "Jehovah."  Jehovah is not a Hebrew word, in truth.

[Qnts2]

"The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin."

 

http://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH.htm

 

I thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

Most Hebrew Scholars translate YHWH as Yahweh, a verb form meaning "to be" which is backed up in scripture in Exodus where God reveals his name to Moses as "I AM THAT I AM".  How do some scholars come up with any other interpretation, such as YHVH, JHVH and JHWH?  Is there any Biblical support for these translations or are they just mistranslated?

 

Shiloh covered the error of the wrong vowels in Jehovah.

 

Now for the others. The third letter in the Tetragrammaton is the Hebrew letter 'vav'. It quite often has the sound 'v'. However, there was a time of transition, when the letter used to have the 'w' sound. So, some will say Yahweh, and some will say Yahveh. You will find in modern Judaism, which would not pronounce the Tetragrammaton, if they did, the 'v' sound would be used.

 

Now for JHVH. Hebrew does not have the letter J, or really the letter Y either. The name for the Hebrew letter which has the y sound, is yod. Hebrew has a different lettering, so neither Y or J exist in Hebrew. Hebrew does have yod, which has a sound similar to our modern Y, and Hebrew does not have any letter with a sound similar to the modern J. But, going back in history, with the Roman alphabet we use today, in Jesus time, there was no letter J in the alphabet. The letter J was added later, and when it was first added to the alphabet, it actually had the Y sound. I think Spanish, has the J which sound like a Y. So, J was used quite often for the y sound. But later, the J changed sounds and is no longer ever the sound of the Y. I think that is why people picked up the J from older writings, when the J had the Y sound, so Hebrew letters Yod, were transliterated to a J.    

[Tyler47]

Should we use the divine name? 

[other one]

Should we use the divine name? 

 

 

Hmmmmmmm   good question

[Guest shiloh357]

Should we use the divine name? 

I don't think it really matters.  Just don't profane it or use it vainly.

[Qnts2]

Should we use the divine name? 

 

My opinion swings to yes, then no, then yes etc etc etc

 

In the book of Psalms, the divine Name is used many many times. During the reign of King David, praise and worship occurred in the Temple 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some of the Psalms, written by David, were sung in the Temple. That means that the divine name was sung. So, from that example, the answer would be yes.  

 

On the other side, the reason the divine Name stopped being commonly used, is it became too familiar and people could blaspheme or misuse the Name. I hear the unsaved use Jesus as a curse word. And use the term, God, in common ways at inappropriate times. If the divine Name came into common use today, it would be misused.

 

I grew up not speaking the divine Name, as it was due the most highest of respect. Honestly, I find that some use it more like a new toy (my opinion and view).   

[Tyler47]

 

Should we use the divine name? 

 

My opinion swings to yes, then no, then yes etc etc etc

 

In the book of Psalms, the divine Name is used many many times. During the reign of King David, praise and worship occurred in the Temple 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some of the Psalms, written by David, were sung in the Temple. That means that the divine name was sung. So, from that example, the answer would be yes.  

 

On the other side, the reason the divine Name stopped being commonly used, is it became too familiar and people could blaspheme or misuse the Name. I hear the unsaved use Jesus as a curse word. And use the term, God, in common ways at inappropriate times. If the divine Name came into common use today, it would be misused.

 

I grew up not speaking the divine Name, as it was due the most highest of respect. Honestly, I find that some use it more like a new toy (my opinion and view).   

 

I am the same way.  The main reason I ask is because Jesus called God the father and never said his name. 

[other one]

I asked a friend at coffee yesterday about what she thought of using Gods Holy Name when speaking about him......    She thought for a minute and suggested we just call him Bill.    God knows everything and he knows when we are speaking to and about him so just to be safe we should cal him Bill.

 

After laughing about it for a bit we wondered if it really matters what we call him as long as we call him...    I'm still pondering on that.

[kingdomwitness]

"The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin."

http://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH.htm

I thought this was pretty interesting.

Most Hebrew Scholars translate YHWH as Yahweh, a verb form meaning "to be" which is backed up in scripture in Exodus where God reveals his name to Moses as "I AM THAT I AM". How do some scholars come up with any other interpretation, such as YHVH, JHVH and JHWH? Is there any Biblical support for these translations or are they just mistranslated?

You said that there is no letter "J" in Hebrew. What of Satan's name? Written perhaps as "sjws" or so. Not sure but sure that there is a letter j in the name.