POLL: America Greatest Threat To World Peace

[MrsRational]

 

 

 

This is the result of decades of anti-American propaganda. Many people have been brainwashed into believing that the U.S.A. is the biggest threat to World Peace. This is Satan working behind the scenes.

 

If the U.S.A. disappeared tomorrow, there would still exist Saudi Arabia, Iran and numerous other Islamic states who have made it clear that they want Islamic law to dominate the Earth. Not to mention, rogue dictatorships like North Korea and even China. Without America, the defender of the free World, the rest of the Globe would be easy pickings for the wolves out there.

In fact, I think that the Muslim nations have a bare-faced cheek claiming that the U.S. is a threat, considering their own violent agendas.

 

If however these nations  vanished into thin air (especially the Islamic ones) then Global peace would be just around the corner.

Honestly, you'd have to be an utter fool to think that the U.S. is the biggest threat to Global peace, but unfortunately there are a lot of fools about. These are the same fools that declare Israel a the major threat to peace in the Middle East.

Honestly, I give up with some people!

 

None of those countries you list outside of China have the power to affect the world as a whole, they have limited control over their local region but have no real global power.  How many of those countries you list have have invaded sovereign nations in the last decade or two?  It matter not which country was to disappear, there would still not be global peace, there has never been global peace and there will not be till Jesus comes back again.  I know it is hard to accept, but there is nothing special about the US, we are a country ran by lost people who look out for their own interest first and foremost. 

 

Actually, we are a special country.   We have more freedoms than any other nation,  people have always immigrated to the US for a better life and more opportunity.  We have done more to support more nations in times of natural disaster.   We lead the world in humanitarianism.   We have given more to the world than we have received from anyone.    We have been an immense blessing to the world.  We have sent out more missionaries than any other nation and the gospel has penetrated more nations due to the Christian community in the United States and the reason we have had such a robust Christian community able to do amazing things for the Lord is because of the immense amount of freedom that we enjoy which no one else in the world enjoys.

 

We are not a perfect nation, but we are the best one.   You should spend some time in the Urkraine, or Siberia, or an Islamic nation, or Bangledesh or Eastern Europe.  You should spend some time in the Congo or Kenya or down in South America and you will find just how much you would appreciate the expectionalism of the United States and why we are the greatest nation the world has ever known.

 

 

For each of those good things you list one can add a just as bad thing.  We do what we do out of our own best interest, not due to any sort of "goodness.  I will assume since you suggest it that you have been to Urkraine, and Siberia, and some Islamic nations, and Bangledesh and Eastern Europe?  Is that correct?

 

As for who has more freedoms, according to the very conservative Heritage Foundation we are 10th best.  http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

 

 

 

We're number six! We're number six! (Doesn't have much of a ring to it).

 

[The_Patriot21]

I would say that sin, is the greatest obstacle to world peace. . .Just a thought here, do we really want world peace outside of God? think about it. There is only 2 things that will bring about world peace-biblically. The first is God-He will establish it when He establishes His kingdom. The other, is satan-and it wont be true peace, but rather bondage. Just food for thought here.

[GoldenEagle]

Please stick to the subject at hand. Also, perhaps we could please be respectful of citizens of other countries? Remember you can disagree with another person without insulting the person you are discussing a given subject with... Respect each other in the love of God!

 

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Thank you for understanding and cooperating.

God bless,

GE
 

[Burning_Ember]

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

I don't think the issue is hating any country, it's about different people having different reforms they would use to fix problems.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been to a few 3rd world and lower countries and I agree with you that we have it great here and I am grateful for all we have.  But that does not mean I have to view our country through rose colored glasses.   I think I have a very realistic view of the country, I understand we have the biggest stick and are not afraid to use it to make people do things for our good more than their own.   We invaded two sovereign countries in the last decade plus not for their benefit but for our own.   We kill people indiscriminately with drones and other methods.   I think if people looked at our country with a more discerning eye we could affect changes for the better. 

 

I am not looking at America through rose-colored glasses.   That is a ridiculous accusation.   Parents love and take pride in their children, even with the flaws and shortcomings their kids have.  They still think they have the best kids around.

 

I am the same way.  I love America with all of its flaws and even when we do junk I don't like.   I still think we are the greatest nation by far and I am proud of my country even though it has done things I am not proud of.   I am not proud of either the Afghan or Iraq war, but that doesn't mean we are not an exceptional country, because we are.   We are the greatest nation and the world would have been much worse off had we not been around or had we not been as great as we are.  I am just as realistic as anyone and I don't white wash our flaws.  But I am proud of this country and I am not going to let anyone diminish that pride because it is justified by history.

 

We invaded two sovereign countries in the last decade plus not for their benefit but for our own.  

 

 The same can be pretty claimed for both WWI and WWII and the first gulf war.

 

We kill people indiscriminately with drones and other methods.

 

No, we don't.   Sounds like you're drinking the far Left kool-aid.

 

 

Do you not read the news?  We have killed close to 3000 people with drones since 2008. 

 

Yes, but you said they were indiscriminate.   what I have heard in the news that we hit targeted individuals.   Any time people were not killed as targets were the result of technical malfunctions which has happened in other conflicts as well.    My point is that we don't kill indiscriminately.

 

 

Who told the news what the target was?  How do you know who was targeted?  Seems this information comes from the Obama administration, do you trust them on this issue?

 

The information comes from our own military.   We hear about target killings of high level al qaeda operatives and leaders and people like anwar ah lawki  and others.  

 

And yes we create enemies when we kill terrorists.  We make enemies from people who didn't like us anyway.  Big deal.  Does that mean we stop killing terrorists?  I don't think so.  

 

 

Other than flying them our military has little to do with the target choices and those doing the flying have no idea who they are targeting.  The CIA and a few agencies make the call.  So, in essence you are accepting what the Obama administration tells you at face value.  Seems an odd position based on your other post.  There is a big difference between someone who does not like you and an enemy.  

 

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

 

You are correct, I have not and I will rescind what I said.  It is refreshing to see you have such faith in President Obama.  I guessed I missed judged you.

How does being realistic about our country equate to hating it?   What is patriotic about ignoring the problems so that they can never be addressed?  I love this country every bit as much as you and based on your post on this forum, more so.   One does not need to be blindly devoted to something to love it.   Why do you have to be such a bullly all the time, why can you not accept that there are people that feel differently than you do without making everything personal?

 

No, I don't trust Obama one iota.   But I am not going to accuse this adminstration of what it did not do, either. It is not an issue of "trust" for me.  The fact is that you made a statement that you can't back up with evidence.    You said that we indiscriminately targeted people to kill with drones.   So far, you have provided NO evidence to support that claim.

 

And I don't think, based on your need to incessently run this country down, that you love this country as much as I do.   I admit our flaws and I don't whitewash anything, but I would not sit here in a thread and seek to diminish our country the way you have.  You made wild claims about us killing indiscriminately, and whether you rescind it or not, your claim is false and not rooted in truth and if I loved America, I would not be promoting falsehood about it.     I am not a bully.  I simply have a better grasp of the facts.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

I don't think the issue is hating any country, it's about different people having different reforms they would use to fix problems.

 

No, the issue is about making wild claims that have no basis in truth and reality.   It's one thing  to see problems that need to be reformed.  It is another to fabricate claims that are not true in order to run down one's own country.

[Guest]

Based on our actives the last couple of decades, seems an accurate assessment. 

 

as for American Exceptionalism, this article dispels that myth nicely.  

 

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Dear One The Braying Of The Hedonist And The Pagan Shows They Totally Missed The Point

 

My zeal hath consumed me, because mine enemies have forgotten thy words. Psalms 119:139

 

Over the last two centuries, prominent Americans have described the United States as an "empire of liberty," a "shining city on a hill," the "last best hope of Earth," the "leader of the free world," and the "indispensable nation." These enduring tropes explain why all presidential candidates feel compelled to offer ritualistic paeans to America's greatness and why President Barack Obama landed in hot water -- most recently, from Mitt Romney -- for saying that while he believed in "American exceptionalism," it was no different from "British exceptionalism," "Greek exceptionalism," or any other country's brand of patriotic chest-thumping.

Most statements of "American exceptionalism" presume that America's values, political system, and history are unique and worthy of universal admiration. They also imply that the United States is both destined and entitled to play a distinct and positive role on the world stage.

The only thing wrong with this self-congratulatory portrait of America's global role is that it is mostly a myth. Although the United States possesses certain unique qualities -- from high levels of religiosity to a political culture that privileges individual freedom -- the conduct of U.S. foreign policy has been determined primarily by its relative power and by the inherently competitive nature of international politics. By focusing on their supposedly exceptional qualities, Americans blind themselves to the ways that they are a lot like everyone else.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/11/the_myth_of_american_exceptionalism#sthash.MZccoAYH.bo4bpz2j.dpuf

 

 

For The Old U.S.A. Is Indeed A Gift From The LORD Jesus Christ

 

In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1 Thessalonians 5:18

 

And Not Just Some Despised Birth Right

 

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:14-16

 

To Be Trashed

 

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Matthew 5:13

 

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Believe

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

And Be Blessed Beloved

 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47

 

Love, Joe

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

I don't think the issue is hating any country, it's about different people having different reforms they would use to fix problems.

 

No, the issue is about making wild claims that have no basis in truth and reality.   It's one thing  to see problems that need to be reformed.  It is another to fabricate claims that are not true in order to run down one's own country.

 

Claiming that signature drone strikes get used is unfortunately based in truth and reality.

[LookingForAnswers]

 

 

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

I don't think the issue is hating any country, it's about different people having different reforms they would use to fix problems.

 

No, the issue is about making wild claims that have no basis in truth and reality.   It's one thing  to see problems that need to be reformed.  It is another to fabricate claims that are not true in order to run down one's own country.

 

 

It is my opinion of how the drones are used, and I have taken them back.  Even taking it out of the equation it changes nothing I have said about our country.  Your blind acceptance of the words of President Obama are rather shocking, and a bit hypocritical on the surface. 

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

The point is that we are not targeting indiscriminately and so far you have not provided one shred of evidence to claim that we are.

 

Why live in America if you hate this country so much???   Why not go live in some socialist country like France?

 

I don't think the issue is hating any country, it's about different people having different reforms they would use to fix problems.

 

No, the issue is about making wild claims that have no basis in truth and reality.   It's one thing  to see problems that need to be reformed.  It is another to fabricate claims that are not true in order to run down one's own country.

 

 

It is my opinion of how the drones are used, and I have taken them back.  Even taking it out of the equation it changes nothing I have said about our country.  Your blind acceptance of the words of President Obama are rather shocking, and a bit hypocritical on the surface. 

 

I don't accept anything blindly that Obama says.   Furthermore, I am not basing anything on Obama, but on the reports from military leaders that tell us of whom they have killed as a result of drone strikes.  The fact is that military is given a lot of latitude to do what they need to do to mitigate threats and while some drone strikes resulted in civilian deaths that were not intended, that is not the same thing as "indiscriminate" killings.    You desparately trying to get me to say what I didn't say and paint my arguments values that you have assigned to me, which shows that you have run out of any arguments that actually contain substance.