Is 'soul sleep' doctrinal?

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

That is certainly a beautiful picture.  I know a river of life flows from the Father's throne. 

 

Another example of spiritual water...

John 7:38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”

Water being described as spiritual is everywhere in the Bible.

It's important not to take the word out of context.

John 3:5 is speaking about spiritual water.

 

Are you saying Jesus meant whosoever is born of the water ( Spirit ) and the Spirit 

 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 

John 7:37-39

King James Version (KJV)

 

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

 

John 3:5 is speaking of spiritual water. Water here is describing the river of life inside their belly.

[anthonyjmcgirr]

I understand about not taking words out of context, but how are you completely sure you aren't? 

Edited February 3, 2014 by anthonyjmcgirr

[Guest DRS81]

I understand about not taking words out of context, but how are you completely sure you aren't? 

 

Because I've been saved by grace and faith and have accepted Christ as my savior,

I have physically felt his anointing on me..and I study the Bible and commentaries.

Study John 7:38 and get back to me.

[Izzel]

 

 

 

That is certainly a beautiful picture.  I know a river of life flows from the Father's throne. 

 

Another example of spiritual water...

John 7:38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”

Water being described as spiritual is everywhere in the Bible.

It's important not to take the word out of context.

John 3:5 is speaking about spiritual water.

 

Are you saying Jesus meant whosoever is born of the water ( Spirit ) and the Spirit 

 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 

John 7:37-39

King James Version (KJV)

 

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

 

John 3:5 is speaking of spiritual water. Water here is describing the river of life inside their belly.

 

So if the water is spiritual river which is the Holy Spirit  as a in John 3 then the txt should read 

 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of Spirit and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

 

 

That is certainly a beautiful picture.  I know a river of life flows from the Father's throne. 

 

Another example of spiritual water...

John 7:38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”

Water being described as spiritual is everywhere in the Bible.

It's important not to take the word out of context.

John 3:5 is speaking about spiritual water.

 

Are you saying Jesus meant whosoever is born of the water ( Spirit ) and the Spirit 

 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 

John 7:37-39

King James Version (KJV)

 

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

 

John 3:5 is speaking of spiritual water. Water here is describing the river of life inside their belly.

 

So if the water is spiritual river which is the Holy Spirit  as a in John 3 then the txt should read 

 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of Spirit and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  

 

 

No, again water is being used as a metaphor to describe LIFE!! Life comes from the throne of God. Eternal life is only granted through Jesus Christ. Also check out John 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

[Butch5]

 

Which of these says believers go to Heaven when they die? I don't see anything mentioned about Heaven in any of them.

 

Forget about the afterlife for a second. Do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh? Do you believe he died for your sins and that you can either accept or reject is salvation?

 

Which of those passages say believers go to Heaven when they die?

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

Which of these says believers go to Heaven when they die? I don't see anything mentioned about Heaven in any of them.

 

Forget about the afterlife for a second. Do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh? Do you believe he died for your sins and that you can either accept or reject is salvation?

 

Which of those passages say believers go to Heaven when they die?

 

 

Acts 7:59, Eze 32:27 and Phil 1:23 are really important ones to look at. What are your thoughts on these.

 

[Butch5]

 

 

 

Which of these says believers go to Heaven when they die? I don't see anything mentioned about Heaven in any of them.

 

Forget about the afterlife for a second. Do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh? Do you believe he died for your sins and that you can either accept or reject is salvation?

 

Which of those passages say believers go to Heaven when they die?

 

 

Acts 7:59, Eze 32:27 and Phil 1:23 are really important ones to look at. What are your thoughts on these.

 

 

I've already looked at them. I don't see anything about heaven.

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

 

 

Which of these says believers go to Heaven when they die? I don't see anything mentioned about Heaven in any of them.

 

Forget about the afterlife for a second. Do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh? Do you believe he died for your sins and that you can either accept or reject is salvation?

 

Which of those passages say believers go to Heaven when they die?

 

 

Acts 7:59, Eze 32:27 and Phil 1:23 are really important ones to look at. What are your thoughts on these.

 

 

I've already looked at them. I don't see anything about heaven.

 

 

Just because the word isn't in the passage isn't a good way to look at the meaning of it. Tell me what these scriptures mean to you, what are they saying?

[Butch5]

 

 

 

 

 

Which of these says believers go to Heaven when they die? I don't see anything mentioned about Heaven in any of them.

 

Forget about the afterlife for a second. Do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh? Do you believe he died for your sins and that you can either accept or reject is salvation?

 

Which of those passages say believers go to Heaven when they die?

 

 

Acts 7:59, Eze 32:27 and Phil 1:23 are really important ones to look at. What are your thoughts on these.

 

 

I've already looked at them. I don't see anything about heaven.

 

 

Just because the word isn't in the passage isn't a good way to look at the meaning of it. Tell me what these scriptures mean to you, what are they saying?

 

It's not only the word, there's nothing there that says believers go to Heaven. It seems you dealing with inferences again.